167: Top 10 Films of 1996

This episode begins with some spoiler-free 2025 movie news and reviews, before Alex and Nick dive into their favorite films of 1996 (23:19). Topics include Leo as Romeo, Depp as Dead Man, Frances as Marge, (maybe) the best action film of all time, the movie that changed horror, the indies everyone talked about, new and old tattoos, and much more.

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Hey, everyone. Welcome to. What are you watching? I'm Alex with Thurrott. I'm joined by my best mad Nick still. How are you doing there, doctor Moreau? Oh, shit. You know what? You throw me off with the blond and you throw me off. Beat the doctor, bro. Jesus Christ, mother. Yeah, yeah, it's mad movie. But you have to understand, we're doing this podcast and we're looking each other through phones. He's wearing a hat the whole entire time. Just throws it right off. And he's looking like fucking Riz Ahmed from The Sound of Metal, bruh. Yes, yes. Going to be leaving for Europe tomorrow and check out so got the bleach blond hair. Good for the Euro vacation. By the time this episode comes out I will already be back. Or will I? Will you or will I? Yes Doctor Moreau, I was trying to think of something funny that I forgot this came out. This that movie came out this year. Did you see that? The theater. I do know, I never saw it in theaters. This is. That was a blockbuster movie for sure. Oh, yeah. Mad. Oh my God. We watch it all the time like it's we have to read it and watch it. So stupid. Love that movie. How you doing? How do you feel to be here? Oh, man, these these these year ones, man, I got to tell you, they they're there. There's something special, you know, they they feel like there they be easy. Like, every time I see you. I mean, I knew 1995 was going to be tough. I knew some of them. But, you know, you get into, like, you don't think about at least I don't personally really think about 1996. No. And not no. Say I was with my list and I, I, I didn't know I mean I still like was making last minute decisions last night because I was like I was too I don't know. And it's fine. Like they don't need to be like written in stone or anything, but it's like, how do you leave these things out? How do you like how like, oh, there's it's crazy. These are some of my favorites, Sue, for those for all those reasons you mentioned, like there are some that are obvious. There's 95, 2007, 2011. Yeah, we've done those things like 98 even was I'm like, I don't I don't really know what's here. 96 doesn't stick out in my memory is a great movie year. If I just look at the Oscars and that is usually where my memory tends to go, like, okay, well, and I think a lot of people do that, like, oh, I'm what, 1 in 96? It's like The English Patient cleans house. And that's kind of that. Even that movie's become kind of a joke as like the Oscar of Oscar movies. And I rewatched it for this. I actually did some digging into the film for the first time, just to kind of understand it a little better. But one of the reasons I'm so excited for this episode, there are two reasons I don't, I don't know. I never know if we're going to have a lot of crossover, but there are some I know for certain are going to be on your list that are not going to be on mine, because I know you and I know they're going to be on your list. And I love that. I'm so I'm like, good, there's two of us here. If just one of us was doing this pod, there wouldn't be a good balance. But you're I when I was leaving movies out, I'm like, it's okay. He'll rep that. And I like that. I have I have a prediction. Okay. I think of all the movie years we've ever done since the history of this podcast, I think today's we will have the least in common. Oh, I would tend to agree. I think I will agree, and I'm going to say I'm going to I'm going to suggest that there are three movies that I have on my list that I believe will be on yours, and that's it. So my, my, my bet today is we're only going to have three movies in common. Actually, I just looked at mine and I would concur. I would concur on what those three movies will be. And yeah, that I mean, sometimes we get to 5 or 6. I mean, sometimes we have a lot in common, but never we've never gone ten for ten. We've never gone. No. You never had less than three, that's for sure. We've never had three or under. So we've never had less than three. It's usually 4 or 5. Five, 6 or 7 I think is usually how many we have in common. But that's going to be one of the great things about this year. And this is also, clearly the first year of the pods that we've done our year pods where I've made a shift and the majority of my list is not going to be prestige stuff, which is usually the case. This is fun, and I think it's because I turned 11 in 1996, so that a lot of my loyalty is still to those films, while also, of course, sprinkling in some cinema of great despair. Oh yes. Yes, it's a it's a very, very great point to make. It makes me very curious for the, for the 11 year olds of today, I, I both I both am curious and shudder to think as to like in these last few years, what are the movies that have come out that are pretty much exclusively my list, besides some of the prestige good films that you put on there because they're undeniable. But like, like there's movies that I have on here that are like, this is purely just because it's me and that's what it's supposed to be. And this was exactly is our favorite. Yeah, yeah, our each of our respective favorite films of 96. This, this podcast. We never use this podcast to make grand statements. No. These are the best films of 1996. Not we're saying these, you know, we've been doing this for five years. People know what's up. But yeah, that that's all this is. It's our favorite. There's no way most of the movies on my list would be nominated for Oscars. There's not a chance. And and what is like. That's what I think about today. Like what would kids be putting on their list today? It can't be good. It's not as good as this. 11 oh, Mike. Well, no, I'm saying I'm saying like if you're if if you're looking at the movies of like 20, 25 and oh, and two an 11 year old. Yeah. Two and 11 year. What are the movies that are coming out that they're like, yo, when we're 37, 38, 40, we're gonna have a podcast and I'm going to read these movies. Will you actually just kind of open it up, because I'm going to do a new little segment and some of our episodes, which is five minutes on new flicks. It's I, I'm going to time myself. We're not going to go any over. We're just going to do a round robin of brand new movies and movie news that I've seen, because a lot of people ask me about movies that we never touch on, on the pod, or if we do, we save them to the end. And who are we kidding? No one makes it to the end anyway. I'm joking, I know, I know for a fact some people do. Jon Klein love you Jon Klein. Some movie news round robin real quick. Five minutes in this kind of lens. Like will the 11 year olds of today be watching these? Have they watch these? It sounds like Social Network two is happening, written and unfortunately directed by Aaron Sorkin. I do not think he should be directing his own material. We have circling to star Jeremy, Alan White, Mikey Madison and Jeremy Strong as Zuckerberg. Strong is a Sorkin guy. He was in Molly's Game Trial, the Chicago seven. I don't know, I'm not very thrilled about it. I mean, I don't know, man. I think you could let go. I'll give you a chance. Yeah. All right. I mean, I mean, here's the thing. You can't. The actors who are here, they want to work with Sorkin material. So I think and I love that Mikey Madison is being so particular in her choice. Oh, I know, oh, I love that. I love, love that. So if she's interested at all, then there's definitely going to be a reason for it. And I mean, I don't know, I mean, hey, he's had some experiences directing. I liked Molly's Game. I enjoyed that the only one I like, I don't like Trial of Chicago seven, and I thought being the Ricardos was really bad. I actually never saw that one, so I can't say well about that one, but but I mean, let's see what he's got. I'm saying give him a chance. I will see it. I will see it. David Fincher cannot come back to direct because he is currently directing The Adventures of Cliff Booth, which is a movie that is indeed happening, written by Quentin Tarantino. He sold the script to Netflix. His buddy David Fincher is making it with his buddy Brad Pitt, who's reprising his role as Cliff Booth. A few cruddy iPhone pictures came out recently with Pitt in a wig. You and I were chatting about it, and now I get to kind of flip the script and I get to tell you, be patient. Let's let's wait, let's be patient. Let's not go think about how particular David Fincher is. He's so particular. And do you think he would want your first exposure to this movie to be a terrible iPhone shot of, you know, Cliff Booth in a bad wig? No, but I'm sure there will be context like, let's just everyone just needs to chill because I've seen a lot of chatter about it, even from you. Well, you brought up a point that's made me even more skeptical, but not of the movie itself. But, but you were telling me, you know, when you read the book of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood by Quentin, you get a much more, in-depth, idea of what Quentin imagines Cliff to be and, yes, and how this movie will probably serve that. I am now more nervous because there's a part of me that likes my lore with Cliff from Once Upon a Time, and I like I don't think I'm going to use an extreme exaggeration of this, but this was my issue with John Wick and had nothing to do with seeing action. Seeing Keanu do a bunch of really great action. It was. There's a lure of the first John Wick where you don't know things that leave it up to your imagination, and then I knew it would happen. The second one comes in, they just expand and start explaining the world, and it's not good, but it's also not bad. It's just like, well, they have to you're, you're you're making a sequel. You have to open things up. Yeah. In my opinion, that kind of ruins the the lore of it all. So now I'm nervous that that might happen for me, but there's nothing I can do. And it's not like I'm not going to see it because I love Cliff Booth. That's all I was going to say. You can either decide to see it or not. It's like you don't want to see The French Connection two, even though Hackman is great in it. But you're like, never good. I don't want to see The French Connection to you said it, the French Connection pod. You were like, no, I'm not going to see it. But then you curse me and you and you and you started throwing out some some very low points. Sorry. Bad example. Sorry. All I'm saying is Social Network two will be nowhere near as good as Social Network one. Adventures of Cliff Booth will be nowhere near as good as Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. But we're both going to show up for him and see him, so we will see. And I should be clear, like the stuff in the Hollywood book, it doesn't like it doesn't go into the 70s. It's not. So yeah, he just he paints a much bigger character, some of which you wouldn't mind me saying some of what you wouldn't mind me saying. But even like when they are flying back, coming back from Italy and you know, he's in the front. DiCaprio's in the front with his new wife. Pitt's in the back with his Bloody Mary. Yeah. If you read the book you know what he's thinking right there. And he's not thinking what you think he might be thinking. He's thinking something completely different. But in, in, Tarantino was directing him that way. Like, you're this is what you're thinking about right now and ain't about like, losing Mr. Rick and ain't about that. So it's just little stuff like that just peppering it in that I can see where the character might go in there, but I mean, who the hell knows, man? Fincher and Tarantino are friends, but they have polar opposite filming styles. Polar starting with film versus digital. I mean, Fincher loves digital. He loves touching stuff up. Tarantino does not. It's a new decade. It's a new it's a new era. Yeah. You know, there's probably a lot of like, freedom that Fincher has now to truly create his own. If it was just a straight up sequel, there'd be like a look that you'd have to kind of like, keep going. In honor of Quentin's, you know? But now it's it's like, okay, we're just taking that character and, and we've got the script. But Fincher can be like, this is my world. Yeah. All right, real quick, the new I Know What You Did last Summer had a lot of potential. Huge bummer. Felton in the room, you could see it was sold out. You could feel the crowd like, turn on it. One of the reasons I want to bring it up here, this is not something we talk about with new movies a lot, but this if you saw it and I would actually recommend you putting it on like streaming. It has some of the worst cinematography and blocking I have ever seen in a movie of this size. The just like the cutting patterns in the blocking don't make sense. And I was sitting in my movie theater chair like turning my head to try to go, wait, what are they? Where is that person just standing and the CGI during the day? I'm not joking. Looks on par with the CGI in the Room by Tommy Wiseau. I'm not kidding. I am not kidding. And the reason I'm bringing this up is everyone's talking about this. I'm hearing people who never mentioned blocking in their life, talking about how poor the cinematography and blocking. It's just it's weird, like you genuinely never know where you are, like in a room on the street. No, I get if you're like, trying to break rules, but there are some standard conventions to like setting up a shot and developing cutting. I mean, it really confused me. And then the story's an absolute mess. Like it? It's just a mess. I was really bummed, I was bummed. Go watch Final Destination Bloodlines instead. The best Final Destination film now available on HBO Max. No free ads. I loved James Gunn's Superman. I am not joking. I thought it was going to be my least favorite movie of the year. I thought it nailed its tone. I thought everyone knew what they were doing. I could not believe it had a smile on my face. And season one, I thought even the title cards were really clever and they made me smile. And the smile didn't really leave. It is far from perfect, but I liked it. And god damn that movie goes hard about the current conflict in the Middle East. I was stunned like it is the most thinly veiled metaphor, and I was like, wow, they're really doing this. Like, this is this is wild. I mean, fucking wild. How much it touches on it. It's not the main plot, but it is there. It is there. And I and I've, I've really enjoyed the, the discourse on this matter. I think it's important, I think that if it's riling people up like this, no matter where you land on the spectrum, this is causing conversation. It's. And that's what it needs to do. So I, I might be jumping the gun a little bit, literally the James Gunn. But I ho done un chunk. But, Oh, no, I'll save it. It doesn't really matter. I think it's it's my what are you watching recommendation, but, Oh. Wow. Shit. Okay, good. It's it it's Chopin. I'm I'm I'm giving away the answer. Obviously. I'm giving it, happy Gilmore to. Looks like absolute fucking dog shit. My God. Terrible I terrible CGI. I'm so bummed about how these Netflix movies look that. Like this. The teal and the oranges. Whatever. Chris Mac. Amazing. Nailed it. Huge part. I love he's getting a huge pop again. He's on the talk show circuit. Loved Chris Mac and that I'll watch that movie. So many more times for Chris Beck. Don't care that it was dumb or wildly inferior to the original. Don't care. Chris Mac was in it. You know we know it. This calls for we gotta get him on the pot. Oh, wow. The did he Holy. Oh oh that I got to do the Diddy tube. I forgot about the Disney. Hello? Hello. Wow. Moron. Good for happy Gilmore. Oh my God, God damn it, Homer! God damn it! Jesus Christ, you stay out of my way. Your pay. Listen to what I say. I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast. It the perfect storm. We got real close. It's a long story, but we got real close to getting them on the pod. And then some stuff out of our control happen. I would love to. Getting back on. I wonder if he's getting to. You know, I said pop, like, popular again. You know, I don't know, a few years ago we didn't have shooter back, but we'll see. Or maybe he should because he would feel no better sense of respect or appreciation of his talent that. Oh, the. What are you watching? Yes, exactly. This is this is the pod for him? Yeah. What I've learned is you got to give people something to, like, talk about just coming on and being like, we're going to talk about your whole career. They could be like, I don't want to fucking do that, man. And I don't necessarily want to talk about like, Happy Gilmore to I talk to him about anything. Talk to him about his favorite movies. 1996, if he wanted to. He was in a few hey, it can be. Let's go. Do you get the press for Happy Gilmore, too? We can do all that, but then we can start talk to him about his role on the faculty. Kind of fucking love the faculty. That was 1998, but still, let's move on to 1996. Here we are. Oh, no, that was fun. Yeah. We're done. That was it. Unless you have some. Do you have anything? Oh, I was I wanted to take a bet and see how long the five minutes really lasted. Five minutes lasted 15 minutes. Yes it did. So we, depending on some editing, if I cut something out. But, yeah, that's usually where we go. It's always right before the. Could I record if I ever say, I really don't think this one's going to take too long, it'll take like four hours. It happens every time. Okay. 1996 people can probably guess what kind of movie watcher I was, but this was the official year that the gloves came off, because 95 was when I was allowed to, like, watch stuff with my parents, and I did a lot of crazy stuff. But 96, it was, you know, I've said this a lot, but let the kid watch what he want, and I could. I had my own TV in my room, small one, my own VCR, and it was just go time. And I was, crushing tape. So there are so many of these movies that I, I saw in the theater because we went every weekend. My parents took me every weekend, or I was renting or renting. So there's a lot of fun stuff to talk about here. And I imagine you're in. Yeah. We were, you know, I was consuming as much as possible, but you were still watching a lot of movies in 96, a blockbuster kid. This this was, you know, and upon going back and looking at, like, all of these listing and movies in 1996, it was very clear to me that this was, probably even more so than 1995 because because there's so many great movies that came out in 1995. Yeah. But like when you kind of look at our list for 1996, you're going to probably see, like these were the movies that I was going to see in theaters over and over. So I would say set 1996 was probably like, I'm, I'm balls deep. I'm all in, I am I right? I am, I am you're fucking sitting there chuckling when I say crush and tape, which is like a nice, appropriate thing to say. And you got to go. You got to go all the other way. People know our personalities here. I mean, it's just it's it's I have no, no. I'm excited. I'm excited to hear these, penetrating picks you've chosen that penetrated your mind. I'll start with the metaphors. All right, so that's. Say that where it's 2025, I can say that word. They say it all the time. Whenever I watch sports, which is once a year, it's. He penetrated the offense in the inside. Oh, he's going deep. I mean, come on. Yeah. You know what they're doing. You know what they're doing in those boxes. I'm just I really bring that up. Okay. All right. Well, Jesus, it's one of the things about these scary movies is the trauma. I know what you did last summer. Let's do what everyone has. These mountains and mountains of trauma. Unlike in the old movie, the trauma was that they fucking hit someone. That was it. That was all. They didn't need to know what, like, happened when they were ten. 1996 movie narratives, the big narrative. Because I was kind of stretching for these. This was the year of the big paycheck. Jim Carrey, 20 million for the cable Guy cruise, 20 million for Mission Impossible franchise. It's still going. Yeah, maybe, but there was one this year. Mel Gibson, 20, for ransom. Arnold, 20 for a racer. Stallone, 17, five for daylight, Bruce Willis, 16 for The Last Man Standing. Costner gets 15 for ten cup and Demi Moore makes history, taking down 12.5 million for striptease. It's important to note that, like some of those movies are good, like eraser. I love eraser, but it's not like Arnold's best day. Light is not Stallone's best last man standing, not ten cup. I mean, a lot of people like them, but I don't think these are the their best movies. I don't think The Cable Guy is Jim Carrey's best movie, but that is the year of it, and this is when it's starting to get criticized. A lot. People are like, does why are we paying Stallone this much for like a it's a mediocre movie. Does what the critics are saying. I think daylight has a lot of fun in it. I think racer has a lot of fun. Anyway, you get my point. Well, it's true, I mean, yeah, I like these aren't the movies for the most part that people are going to be talking about. But hey, this is the movie star. Yeah, exactly. The air in the movie star era. We are in it. Other big narratives. Everyone's talking about Independence Day before it's released. They release it. I'll never forget this. It, like movies, always came out on Friday. And then, I don't know, a week or two before. They're like, actually, we're going to release it on Thursday. Yeah. And then like the I think that Wednesday, like I was watching TV and they're like, just kidding. It's in theaters right now, Wednesday night release. So my mom and I like ran to the theater. Of course it sold out. I it was just that was the big movie of the year. And then when it came out, it was that's all anyone was talking about. It held my movie theater records, six watches until what was it, folks? Good old Oppenheimer. How many don't have? Oh, which I have far more than six movie theater viewing. So. But that was the big movie of the year. You couldn't escape it. Independence day everywhere, everywhere there was indie films dominated the Oscar, the Oscars, believe it or not, we'll get to that in the Oscar section. And then The Island of Doctor Moreau. If you were there, you kind of know it became our generation's Heaven's Gate, where we were hearing about. It's like this terrible production, pre-production, still one of the most ridiculed films ever. I have watched a hilarious documentary about it. But yeah, those that's kind of where we were in the year 96. Let's get to this list. These lists rather. Oh, I hope he's laughing. I want you to go first. I feel I feel like we're going to have to like. I mean, there's definitely some explanations that are going to need to happen right here, because I feel like a lot of people are not going to know. So all right, so I'm going to start. So number ten. No, not going to know what they're not going to know like a lot of what these movies are because oh okay. What the hell are you about to talk about. All right. Let's go. I'm going to talk about a movie that I think is just. There's no way I could not put this on the list. I'm not saying again, everyone, this is not a movie that I think is, like, the best, like, you know, representation of film or cinema, but I mean, damn it, this movie, I had this I mean, I crushed tape to this. I mean, there you go. See this? This was I think that's hilarious. That's a really good one. Crushing good old VHS tape right here. I was, I was and still holds I don't care. I'm going to we're going to get so much more. I'm going to get so much flack for this one. Peter Jackson's best movie he's ever made, the Frighteners, starring Michael J. Fox. Let's go. You're being way too cautious and way too hard on yourself. The Frighteners is fucking awesome. It is when nobody knows that you talk to our young foreign matter. This is. This is what? What are you watching us for? Hello. Welcome to what are you watching The Frighteners. People are not going to give you shit for this. This is a great spirited pick and one that I thought would be on your list. But please expand. I love this movie, I love it, this movie is so good. It's all about this. Michael J. Fox plays this guy who got into a car accident, and then ever since then, he's survived it and he has contact with ghosts and spirits. And so, like any real person, any real man, he uses them for financial gain. Of course, of course. And he decides to live with a bunch of them, and then they go and haunt people's houses and then they need like an exorcist, and they call him and he comes and then, you know, absolves him. But this movie really has a bit of everything. This is it's funny, and it's also a side of Michael J. Fox. This was also towards I mean, I think right around this time is when he got Spin City and that kind of thing. So yes, this guy kind of leads I think 97 is Spin City and that kind of takes him out of movies. Exactly. Makes sense. Knowing what we know now. But this is like his last like big movie. This was his. Yeah, I think so. And I also say that this is, I mean, I'm not taking away Marty McFly by any stretch of imagination, but I've always held true that this is my favorite Michael J. Fox performance because I love it, man. He he, he he gives you that Michael J. Fox quality about him that you just can't help but love. He's like one of the most lovable, like, people you'll ever see on on on camera. And yet he's playing a guy who is really, quite frankly, by all accounts, a despicable dude. He does not make good decisions. And, and you feel and he, you feel the weight and regret and shame that his character has in a way that I don't think he's ever really done before. And then also, oh my God, what is his name? Always on the tip of my tongue. Jeffrey Coombs Jeffrey Coombs one is called the greatest villain. My garments is you'll ever see. So good. He's so amazing. He's an animator. I mean, yeah, he's like a horror legend. And they bring him back for it, and it's such a yes. Great. It's so weird and twisted. And then you've got Jake Busey and this whole entire idea, like those scenes where they cut back to, like, the massacre and like the, like the old, loot loosely inspired by Charles Starkweather. Yeah. The real guy who was a lady, like, hacked up a bunch of people. Yeah. He's so effective. He's he's so terrifying. And it's scary. Like, so this movie really has everything it's got. It's got the drama. It's got the funny, it's got the actual true, like, disturbing, aspects of it. So I, I love this movie. I watch this so much. This is like what is happening to Denny Villeneuve now there, there was a Denis Villeneuve pre dune and now he's going to be the James Bond director. And I think he's only going to do those massive movies. You can say the same thing for Nolan. Before Nolan went to Batman he had these smaller movies. So did Peter Jackson's braindead heavenly Creatures. The Frighteners is his last movie before he graduates the Lord of the rings, which every single person but us probably says, you know, are the best movies he's made. But I've always gotten so much more enjoyment out of his earlier work. But, you know, I mean, I'm not going to take Lord of the rings away from people, but that's, you know, now he's that type of director. It's at and it's three Hobbit movies, a decade or so later, you know. So yeah, I love The Frighteners. I don't think you should be so hard on yourself on your picks. It's a great film. Thanks, horse. Mine. Oh, boy. Here we go. Yeah. That speaks to your personal personality. Well, this speaks to mine. Usually my lists contain, as I said, a lot of prestige stuff. And I have those at, you know, one, two, three spot. And then the fun stuff is reserved for the ten, nine, eight spot. Yeah, it's the exact opposite this time. The exact opposite. I'm starting with the heaviest movie on my list by far. Wasn't sure if I was going to do this. Hellboy Breaking the Waves by Lars von Trier. Oh my god, Lars von Trier. Dude, he does not. It's a Lars von Trier love story. He does not make easy movies, but this movie has one of it has an emotional wallop that you cannot shake if it's a long film. Two hours and 40. If you sit there, you'll see it's so grainy. It's sad. It's profound, funny, terrifying at times. But if you're in it and if you sit there, I almost have to guarantee that the last, the last shot will just knock you out. And there's no even dialog. It'll just knock you out. And I found out about this movie from Roger Ebert, who called it one of the best films you'd ever seen, quite frankly. And it is. Wow. It's not easy. Emily Watson's first performance, she got nominated for an Oscar. She is a woman who lives in a small village, and she meets an oil rig guy, Stellan Skarsgard. I mean, the first scene, it's like melancholy, oh, they're getting married. So we missed the meeting, and he gets in an accident and, you know, it's like the the Village people aren't really for him. So it's all that complexity. I own it and I put it on for this because I'm like, do I really want to go this hard on this list? And it's just damn, you know, I put melancholy in my top of 2011 and this is yeah, it's Breaking the Waves, dancer in the dark, Antichrist and melancholia. Those are, I think, the Lars von Trier for me, Mount Rushmore is I know I'm leaving out a few big ones there, but if you've seen the movie, you know, like, it's intense, but it's not intense like the House that Jack built does. It's not like that. It's not Antichrist. Not it. Not at all. But it has this emotional power to where like, how could a Lars von Trier movie be nominated for a bunch of Oscars? This is how you know, the House that Jack built is not getting nominated for a bunch of Oscars. Not a bunch, but at least one, you know? So, yeah, highly, highly recommend for people who want some challenging cinema. It's in English. They're speaking English, so you don't want to read subtitles, but yes. Fantastic film. What? It's a selling point for a lot of people. A lot of people already know how to read. I know it is. I never learned to read. All right. Cool. Very representative pics from both of us. Let's go to your number nine. All right. This this was a last minute edition because once again we find ourselves in the pickle of what the movie did this movie come out? The dreaded movie year dilemma? Yes. I had a movie that I know is on your list. I know it with every fiber in my being and this was where I actually put it. I'm excited to talk about that movie when we get to it, because I have a new take on that movie, but I'm, I'm saying a whole different movie other than what is actually my number nine pick, which is one of my all time favorite directors. Jim Jarmusch with Dead Man. Wow, I love that it's here. Really. I honestly thought it'd be higher, but that's it's all good. You know, I there's no, I can't you I know when you talk about this year, I there's like I know it gets crazy. It gets it gets weird. Before before you go, let me say that if you look on IMDb for a few movies we're going to talk about today, including this one, it says it's a 1995 movie. It premiered at one festival in 95, and then had its theatrical distribution in 96. This stuff typically pisses me off for our purposes on this list. I'm basically like, within reason we do our best. But you know, we we try to go off when it was available for the public. Public release dates is what we're going off of. IMDb is not perfect about this stuff. So yeah, whatever. That's why Day Tripper says 96 week. We included it in our 97 list. Dead Man Says 95. Whatever. It's a good movie. Rewatch it yesterday. Yeah, I know I saw your screenshot. Yeah, yeah, this was my, if I recall correctly, this is probably my first Jim Jarmusch movie I've ever seen. I remember my mom was a very big Jim Jarmusch fan. I remember her playing this movie on VHS, and I remember not really understanding it and just having it on. My uncle really liked it as well, and it became a movie that my mom and my uncle would like. They would have inside jokes about, like, they would always, I mean, they would quote Michael Wynn card from this movie all the time, and he's just truly one of the I mean, can't trust a man having most of a conversation, talking to a bear, a goddamn bear. I can't do I can't get that. No one that's it's too hard. And, I mean, I would fucking kill my voice if I did that. I loved him, I like he might be my favorite character. It is. He's. He's been there during the whole movie. And then we hear a shot off screen that we cut to someone just eating a hand. And I don't want to give much away, but you're like, yeah, yeah, let's see. Or if he's like, he's like, fuck them. He cooked them yet them he did. They were like his. He goes his parents. Yeah it's parents. Oh yeah that. But he killed him. He fucked and we cooked to meet him. He's just saying it. So he's like that guy right there and they're talking about, Lance Henriksen. And he's great, too. He's total. He's great. I did not remember. It's just it's a it's a really solid western, that's all. That's like, it's a good western about, simple guy who strolls on into town and is mistaken, gets caught up in his first night and into something kind of bad. And then people are chasing him, and he's on the run and by I love by the end, he's not going to look anything like that meek, you know, guy who took the train into town. It's a total transformation just in a few days, but just a solid western scored by Neil Young and Neil. So fucking Jim Jarmusch, all those cuts to black. I was watching it like, man, this is it's really ballsy to do that because I thought, you know, I'd be it'd be fun to drop this into my editing and take out those cuts and take out all the fades to black and see what, yeah, get. But he's setting a whole tempo there, literally from the first scene of like, now you're on my time, baby. I really dug it. And I love that transformation point you brought up, because that that is probably like, you know, only Jarmusch can kind of like deliver a transformation in a pacing that, like, this movie is because it's a very slow paced thing. And yeah, and that transformation just sort of kind of dawns over you like years, like you sort of like realize that, like way later you're like, wow, this is not the guy that we first met. But yeah, there isn't a certain point where you've got that like apex, that moment where you're like, oh, boom, this is now we're different. It's just sort of it's like, wow, this is a hole that that Jim Jarmusch, that that's his whole thing. It's sort of washes over you. But funny thing about Neil Young in this, however it happened, Neil Young never saw any footage of the movie. So so that guitar part that he wrote for this was all basically off of a conversation. And then Jarmusch was pretty much, whatever you give me is what I'm going to use. And then he does sort of kind of edited that into. So there was no kind of understanding of like how this is going to work out, which is really interesting because when you watch it, it both fits and doesn't fit all at the same time. Yeah. Which is perfect. He's he's holding out long passages of time where it's just the music and imagery. There's no dialog, there's no there's a lot of these fades to black that I'm talking about. So that that makes sense to me. I can see how it wouldn't be scored for the movie. Like to the movie beat for beat. It's just you just off doing it. That's what you got to let someone like Neil Young do, like, yeah, go off and give me tracks. I'm not going to tell you exactly how to do it. And that's a smart director because we even had to do this a little bit for there I go. Because like we were, we were fitted with the music. And so we kind of had to create the movie around it a little bit. We had to kind of like figure out a pacing or an editing style. So you realize when you're watching Dead Man, knowing that, that that's exactly what Jarmusch did, he goes, well, the music we have to kind of edit to the music like this. We're going to set up the pacing according to this, which is not a bad thing. It's one of those cool things about filmmaking where so you could have all the cool ideas you want, but then you're kind of faced with one thing that's sort of like, we can't move this. This is not negotiable. So we have to we have to create around it. All right. Another, semi prestige. Not really though, for me. And then we're going to get off this serious train, this one the best documentary Oscar this year. It is a film by Leon Gass called Leon Gast called When We Were Kings. One of my favorite documentaries of all time. It is a retelling of The Rumble in the jungle, my favorite boxing match of all time, which took place in October 1974, in Zaire, Africa. George Foreman, the heavyweight champion of the world, was the odds on favorite to beat the older, louder out of his prime. Muhammad Ali, who had the heavyweight championship stripped from him in the 60s for refusing to be inducted into the US armed forces. The Rumble in the jungle represented so much more than a boxing match. I've seen the real fight hundreds of times on YouTube. It was immortal. It was immortalized quite beautifully for the conclusion of Michael Mann's Ali, and this documentary, When We Were Kings, is one of the main reasons I got into boxing. I remember watching this with my dad. He and I still love Ali, I just I adore this movie. You get like Norman Mailer and George Plimpton, like they're talking about, you know, they were there, like being there and how crazy it was. This is not a part of the documentary, but one of my favorite stories about this fight is that onerous. Thompson was in Zaire, Africa. He and his buddy were so convinced that Ali, who was like a hero to Thompson, Thompson loved Muhammad Ali and everything he stood for was just going to get the ever loving shit kicked out of him. People thought Muhammad Ali was going to die in that ring, because George Foreman was ten years younger and so much stronger, and they didn't go. He just got drunk and sat by the pool and skipped a fight. He was he was sent to Zaire to cover the fight for, like, rolling Stone. And he just sat by the pool, got drunk. And then when they found out later, he was like, well, damn it, I didn't know that was going to happen. No. One of my all time favorite Thompson stories. I just love that. But yeah. Easy documentary. I try to rep not to. Breaking the waves is foreign, but foreign director try to rep some foreign films. Documentaries on the list? Absolutely. Go see a great, great film. That's fucking when we Were Kings. Yeah, it's just really good. You do not have to be a fan of boxing to like it. And one of the reasons it got me into boxing is that these people are explaining the art of boxing very, very well. Like how disrespectful it is to throw a straight right arm in like the first round of a fight, like very, just little technical nuances like that. And if you're hearing, well, why would that be? It's just it's a disrespectful thing to do because it's a hardest punch to throw. So when you do that in the first round, you're basically telling your opponent, you think I'm afraid you I'm not afraid you at all. And that's what Ali was doing to him from the beginning. So just great. If you ever heard rope a dope fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee, it's all kind of about rumble in the jungle kind of. Kind of. All right, number eight. Give it to us. All right. This one was. Don't. Don't be mad at me. Just don't I don't I'm not going to be mad for anything, cause I just I know where this one I have. I'm trying to guess where I know you have. These are one of the movies that I know we've got in common. I'm trying to think of where it is on your list. So at number eight, I've got it. We've covered it, we've covered it, we've talked about it a lot. It might be one of our most talked about movies. On the history of the pod, talking about scream Baby, how that movie sucks. It's not on my list. It's Shrek. It's a scream baby. Somebody says, yeah, if you want to float Dick. Yes, Dick. Wes Craven, episode 47. Go back to episode 47 to listen to our scream one and two pod. Yeah, I'm glad it made the list. I'll put it that way. Yeah. I mean, it was not going to me. I mean, I'd seen I mean, this was I mean, you talk about crush and tape. Oh my God, I watched this movie so many times, I'll never forget my mom and I. She took me to see it. It came out around Christmas time, 96. And we were just I remember where we were sitting in the theater, like the row we were in and we were just we loved everything about it. That was she took me, I think, the next day. I mean, we saw this at least five times in the theater, like, like, and then as soon as it came out, we watched it all the time. Oh, yeah. That same I saw this in theaters. Love it, love it. Yeah. Might get brought up again. I don't know, I don't know, so derivative and like, I've seen it all before. It's so many. Number eight going I that's what I love about it. Going going to more psychological thrillers, getting into the to the fun stuff. I got a very elevated psychological courtroom thriller that when they made this, they did not think they were making an Oscar movie. They thought they were just making a courtroom thriller. But Gregory Hublot's first film, Primal Fear, starring Richard Gere, is my number eight. I love this movie. Gear is so good in this, and he never got the credit for it because, of course, Edward Norton, rightfully so in his first performance, delivers a star making, Oscar nominated turn as Aaron Stamper. Great performance, and he takes most of the heat from in the movie, which is fair, but gear is like slimy and believable and charming. I don't know, I really like him. It's because gear two never gets the credit that he deserves for any. Not often. Yeah, and like, he's so good and everything good. Yeah. Internal affairs playing a dirty cop. Go watch it. But primal fear like he even has this relationship that he. There's kind of a running thread throughout the movie where he's being interviewed for this magazine to like him, meet up with the journalist. And one time he like vents to the journalists in a bar. And then as he's leaving, he's like, if you print any of this, I'll sue your fucking ass. He's like a hot shit Chicago lawyer. That's I don't know, it's really good murderer's row of character actors. I'll go through them fast, because Nick hates when I talk about character actors. Laura Linney smoking Laura Linney, John Mahoney as a shithead lawyer. Alfred Woodard's, the no nonsense judge. Frances McDormand as a shrink, Andre Brower and mere attorney. Moore attorney. Tough name work in the office with gear. Terry wins their. Steven Bauer plays a local crime boss that gear likes. Don't fucking school me or talk to me about pronouncing celebrity names, okay? You have no leg to stand on and you don't like when I talk about character Maura Tierney and you don't like when I talk about character actors on the New Hollywood Film Project? No, I don't mind talking about those. I don't talk about those are not character writers. These are the people that no one's ever heard of. And you're like, where are they now? And then it's like, I don't know, nowhere do you said you went to the premiere of someone from Halloween. It hurt my feelings that you shit on it. No primal fear I love it. I, you know, have you seen the film? Oh, yeah, I have. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah, well, I like it a lot. And I think it's a really good movie and one that I had on a lot as a kid. And you kind of, you know, you watch it as adult, you're like, oh, shit, there's a few scenes that, really go there. They just used to kind of do that. These movies, you get a courtroom thriller and then suddenly, suddenly someone's crush and tape and primal fear and you're like, whoa, okay, that really went there big time. I'm not letting it go. I'm not. I'm doing it. I'm not letting it go. Oh, we will. We have to keep we have to keep it into the VHS context. You can't make it. They're watching what I'm saying. They're watching a VHS with sexual content. It's. But they're watching it over and over and over within the film. They are crushing that tape tapes getting passed around. It's gone. Archbishop. Ruckman. Ruckman. Not a good man. Just going to say not a good man. I love Frances McDormand. Like coming in. It's such a small bit part like and then there's another movie she's of this year that gets she's like you know gets all this acclaim for it. I just love that. It's still she hadn't broken through yet. So you can still see her in like a small part. But she's really good as a shrink. I don't know, love parental fear. Great film. Solid year for Edward Norton right here. What a debut in 1996. He was also in this. Yeah yeah yeah very funny. He he had a three. Yeah. He was in people versus Larry Flynt playing the young lawyer. And he was in Woody Allen's Everyone Says I Love you, which I doubt is going to be on either of our lists as it is a musical, but he was indeed in it. Yeah, it's a musical where he encouraged everyone to sing in their natural singing voice, so no one sings well in it at all. And that was everyone's off pitch, off tone. And that was kind of his, I don't know, rationale. Your number. I kind of like it. Yeah, yeah, you might like it. Your number seven. All right. This is probably the number. If we were talking about scream at number eight. The number seven. This has to be the movie that I by far saw the most times in theaters. Just that year, I think, I, I think I ran it up to maybe, maybe even seven. Where exactly is on the list? But we're talking about the one, the only bill Paxton stars in twister. And that's right. Oh yeah, Bill Paxton gets the billing before the title of the movie, because Bill Paxton goddamn right he does. We love packs. We read packs hard on the pot. The what's our twister? Episode number, episode 133 was the twister spot, where we talked about 1996 original and the 2024, sequel of sorts. That infuriated Nick just to no end. At least a few seeds. But I love that it's here. Yeah, it's a great twister. Is great. We did it on the pod. The 4K looks awesome. Awesome. I, I there's just I just remember I could not get enough of this. I thought it was just the coolest thing. I made me want to be a storm chaser. And then I realized math was involved. And then I said, maybe. No thanks. No. Okay. And yeah, no way. But doesn't change the fact that twister rocks and twisters could have used some editing in that one scene. Yeah, like I like everything else. It's a problem. A lot of people didn't like that and seen it all. Just you just wanted them give a little a little tongue and then it would have been fine. Right. I'll tell I'll tell you this. There's actually probably, if anyone really wants to get my goat or goat, I don't know what it is. If anyone really wants to, if anyone wants to rile me up for no reason. There you go. All you got to do is launch no context at all and just be. I love the ending of twisters. That's all it takes for you, all right? And I will legitimately blood will start to boil. I will I will get upset. And I don't know how well I might know you to continue a conversation, but I if I overhear that in any sort of space I will need to remove myself from the situation, I will actually get angry. I thought a lot about this, twister, I love it. I love to pick great film. We've talked about it. Who's, who plays rusty in this? What's his name again? Philip Seymour Hoffman. Good job. You got it? Got it. But it's got to stop. I can't I won't be the it's it's it's the Seymour that I can't sweat if I just go Philip Hoffman I can do it. Dustin hoffman. Seymour. Philip Hoffman, Philip Seymour Hoffman I can't I can't make so funny. I mean, I do it too. I have a few names. I'm more at mirror and whatever God damn, suck it, nerd. Geek number seven is actually a film we've kind of covered in part my number seven rather as a film. We've also kind of covered in part go all the way back to episode 33 zero top ten hang out movies. I can think of nothing better than From Dusk Till Dawn. Written, written by Quentin Tarantino, directed by Robert Rodriguez. I've already watched this movie twice this year. I don't I think it's perfect genre cinema. I mean to tell you how many times my friends and I, starting in 96, but then even through college, we would put on this first scene and, you know, Michael Parks, I think I'm going to get tanked tonight. Love is like, let's drive right to Texas, which I send my way. Or yeah, when he's like a hippie when he's high only so, oh my god. And then, yeah, over and over we memorize it. I remember the first time I saw it with my friend Chris, we were at his house and looking at each other and thinking we were watching the wrong movie. We're like, this. This is a vampire movie. Like what? And then, you know, I just want to say Harvey Keitel, George Clooney, Quentin Tarantino, Juliette Lewis, Salma Hayek, John John Hawks, all in the film. All have been nominated for and or won Oscars. Boom! From dusk till dawn. Hell yes. This one, maybe more so than any other movie, was the one that killed me not to have on my list. Oh, really? Really. I didn't even know. Got that close for you. Gotta love this movie. No, this movie is just. It's just it's utterly fantastic from start to finish in every single way. And, Yeah, I really I had a tough time with this one not being on there, but I mean, that's the thing with these years are so I'm glad I, I'm really actually I'm really excited to when we get to our our like once we've done our top ten and we talk about all the ones we've missed just to give people a like an idea of what this year really looks like. It's wild. It's there's so much it's might be one of the most fun years that. Yeah, yeah, in my list, despite what I started with is yeah, going to get progressively more fun. And yeah, there's just so many, so many actions and comedies that are nowhere near my list that I still love. And then I still watch today. It's just, yeah, that's the nature of the list. Number six almost halfway. You said something earlier in the pod that I took umbrage with and, The guy know where this is going? You you you we were talking about the era of movie stars and how this decade, this year was work. All these actors are putting in all this, all this, making all this money. And you think it's the best? It is best. This is my favorite Jim Carrey performance. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I didn't know. Okay, I apologize. That's not true. I, I, I, I think I, I, I think I stand, I think I stand with eternal Sunshine is my favorite performance, but this is my favorite comedy performance Jim Carrey's ever given. And I don't care what anyone says. I know everyone has a feeling about this movie, but I think the cable Guy is pure fucking genius. This movie is so weird and dark and uncomfortable, and Jim Carrey just goes for it every step of the way. I I've seen this movie so much I could never get enough of it. I think is and that Medieval Times scene I will still that's up there for me with him coming out of the Rhino and Ace Ventura two, where I will laugh just as hard as as I've ever laughed upon seeing that scene. So yes, The Cable Guy number six, directed by Ben Stiller, a lot of absolutely. Yeah. Yes. Am I wrong that that was that was a Chris Farley part or is there something in here with the wait? Did he did Carrey's, like, steal it from him? Is that what. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to bring that up. I thought this was a situation where Farley had passed and they had to recast. But it wasn't that. That's right. This was kind of a drama thing is a little bit of a thing. Yeah. As far as my understanding of it goes. Because I do believe that everyone it seems to be one of those stories that everyone's got a different opinion on it. But from everything that I know was that Chris Farley was slated to be in it, and Chris Farley was really excited. And then I don't know how the ins and outs of it went, but essentially Jim Carrey kind of muscled his way, coming out the biggest star in the world and the biggest star in the world. And and was like, this is this is what I want to do. I and everyone hates it. And I think the cable guy is like one of his best things he's ever done. And then everyone does kind of say that when, Farley lost this role, that kind of set him on a bad way after that. Yeah. Sliding doors about to stuff. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a shame either way it happened. But when you got the biggest star in the world going, I want to do this. Like, that's it. This is Hollywood. That's the way the shit goes. I think the movie is much better reputation now than in 96. So when you say people hate it, people, it wasn't Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber or The Mask, and that's what people wanted. It's something much darker, much stranger. And then he bounced and it wasn't that big of a hit. And it wasn't, oh, critically, it was critically derided a little bit so. And I think he very consciously goes, all right, you want that didn't work. So now I'm going to go serious and I'm going to give you the Oscar performance, which is Truman Show. And he, of course got nominated for that. Just kidding. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, I you're right, there are the people out there that that like this movie, but I still overall like, I feel like when you have a conversation about Jim Carrey, people are like. And then there was the cable Guy, and I was like, no, there was the cable guy. Yeah, my great one, my number six. I got to tell you, this is what? Wait, is it? Yeah. I think this is one of the ones that I think we're going to have in common. So I don't know when my mom took me to see Independence Day that first time and it was sold out, we had to at the time begrudgingly buy tickets to another movie. But now, today, Independence Day, it's not on my list. What's on my list? One of the best movie title line deliveries ever. Welcome to the Rock. I hope. God, Michael Bay's the Rock. Fucking fantastic film. There's just there. I don't have a bad word to say about it. Some sniper is going to get his ass, like, I just. I love all the lines in it. And, I mean, Connery had five movies after this. The Avengers, not the one you're thinking of playing by heart. Entrapment. Not bad. Finding Forrester, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and then he's out. I think he was like, what? I'm. Maybe I'll try to win an Oscar for finding Forrester. Wasn't nominated, wasn't as well received. I think it's a lot of people thought it was going to be. So he's out. So I think the Rock is his last truly great performance because I think he's awesome in this movie. And I think it's also like, I think that's the last one that people really remember, as well. Yeah. Like, yeah, I agree, I actually I actually enjoyed finding Forrester. I thought there was some. Oh no, I like finding Fawcett too, but they, I think they thought they were doing good. Well, yeah, too, in a way. And like, hey, we got Gus Van Zandt back. Like, Connor is going to get it. He'll do the Robin Williams thing, but he'll get the supporting actor like Williams did for good Will hunting. And we'll get, you know, and it just didn't work that way. I like finding Forrester a lot, too. Yeah, but but that same movie that anyone talks about, like, no one's being like, hey, finding Forrester, you know what I'm saying? That movie taught me the difference between father and further father relates to distance. Because if Murray Abraham uses it wrong, father relates to distance. It's great, great moment. What's further than furthers like you've gone further in this draft than I have. I can't take this draft anymore. I'm tired. I'm out. Not. You have farther to go. If we're going to go to the movie theater, you have farther to go than I'm okay. So father far relates strictly to distance. Like actual literal distance. Further is just like reality. All right? It's taught me the definition of irony. Irony? Define irony. A bunch of I'm screwed up. The line is from Con Air buddies, like a bunch of inmates dancing on a plane to a song made famous by a band that was killed in a plane crash. Because they're singing Sweet Home Alabama. Yeah, I love that. When the actual meaning is the complete opposite of the literal meaning. I know what irony means. All right, well, I didn't know if you could say it in that quick of a soundbite. Probably would have taken me like, 45 seconds to explain. Probably. I'm the Cody Rhodes. Ben Stiller. Yeah. Ben Stiller, Reality bites. Hey, we brought it back to that. But the Rock. Yes. Great movie. Are you a fan? I yes, I am. She is happening. All right, that brings us to your to our top five. Number five, a movie that I, I know for certain is not going to be in your list at all. Oh, boy. Okay. Baz Luhrmann, Romeo plus Juliet. Wow. Okay, I didn't even. This wasn't even on my radar. Radar wasn't even on my radar. I was typing Romeo. As I said, that wasn't even on my radar. I completely forgot this was. Yeah, this was 96. Yeah, I'll speak on it because yes, it is not on my list. I know it's not I Leo was he. This was the movie that really like he was in a few things up until this point. But this was the movie because he was Romeo. And yeah, honestly, it's probably the most perfect casting. I don't think if there's, I don't think if Shakespeare was writing Romeo and Juliet, he could imagine anyone at that time. And at that age, even with that look that there is anyone more perfect to play Romeo than Leo and like, so I, I have to say, like, you could say what you want about the Shakespeare. I think it is more than serviceable. I think anyone could watch this movie and get along with the language, have fun with it, understand it, and then the style takes care of everything else. So if I recommend a Shakespeare movie for anyone to watch, I'm going to recommend this one because it was shat on at the time for it. But now I think this would probably be my number one recommendation for anyone wanting to watch a Shakespeare movie, because you're going to fall in love with the style and the music and everything about it. I think this is my favorite Baz Lerman movie. I love it, and it's got one of my favorite Leonardo DiCaprio acting moments of his entire career when he fucking shoots down Tybalt in the rain and he's screaming and he's shooting the gun that is fucking raw shit right there, man. Fuck yeah. Let's go. Leo. Fucking shooting murder. This is why I'm glad we're we're doing our yeah separate list, because this is a movie that deserves. This is a like 96 movie, 1996. It deserves to be talked about. And it's not on my list. So I'm glad you're wrapping it so hard. I knew you liked it. I don't think I knew you liked it this much, but this movie is hugely important to Leo because I don't know if he gets cast in Titanic like I'm at. This gave him a huge like, oh, wow, this guy, the lady's really liked this guy. And they did. They did in that if Romeo and Juliet didn't happen, I don't think he's in Titanic, which therefore then, you know, I still love I we, we talked about it on our James Cameron, podcast but like yeah, that that backlash that Leo got during the 90s that took him out of movies like that shit that everyone forgets or no one knows about, like, that was so real. Like the America's hatred towards Leo, which made him have to leave the business for a little bit to just sort of like, I got to, like, get off people's radar, like, that's wild. But he didn't bounce back until Gangs of New York and Catch Me If You Can, 2002. He was in stuff. Yeah, he's in Woody Allen celebrity in 98, and he's not that bad, honestly. And people like the beach. But yeah, there's he was in stuff. But yeah, the man hated the man in the Iron Mask is a movie. Oh, I can't wait. That's right people. Yeah. The man the Iron Mask was the follow up to Titanic. And people did not go and see that movie because Leo was in it like that movie lost money because of the main actor just purely being in it. And it had Jeremy Irons, Gerard Depardieu, John Malkovich. It had a whole castle in the theater and everyone was like, fuck this, I'm not going to see another Leo movie that was that bad. Whether it's one of the movies ever happened like that, where it's like, oh, this guy's in it, we hate him. We're not going to see it. I think it happens more now toward women like, Anne Hathaway went through this in 2012 when lame is came out, everyone hated her. All of a sudden, everyone there was half a hate like, yeah, but it wasn't. It didn't last as much as this was. This was pretty powerful. No. Yeah, I agree it's a different time because it's social media and stuff too. It's just people. Yeah, yeah, people get dinged. But if you're if you're also wondering why did it take Leo so long to win an Oscar? This is why Paul Newman went through the same thing when he broke through. It was I mean, this stuff's been going on forever. There's a Hollywood is so quick to embrace you. Yeah, as the new thing and then immediately reject you with a fuck you for no reason. Doesn't man in the iron mask? I'm not looking it up, but I believe that probably came out when Titanic was still in theaters and people are still, like, flocking to Titanic, but no one's going to that. I saw man in the Iron Mask in the theater. I'm bad though. So bad. But yeah, but but it's still happens. It happened to Brad Pitt I did years earlier. That's right. I've been to Brad Pitt where it's like. But I think it's kind of these guys have everything they're good looking. They, whatever they date the famous actresses, whatever that is. So, like, fuck them. Let's take them down a peg. They have everything that I think is a giant part of it, especially for Brad. Yes, case, because I think there was probably more of an argument during Early's Leo career where everyone knew that this is like a good young, up and coming actor. Brad didn't have that yet. Brad, like Brad Pitt, like, rode on the success of every movie and performance that he did, and he was finding it along the way and everyone's like, this guy is trash. He's only in movies because he's a good looking, and I cannot wait. The day that we do our Brad Pitt episode very. I've been asking you for years, I'm like, do you want to do it? And you're like, yeah, sure. Eventually. All right, we got to move on. That was a long time for Romeo and Juliet. That's good. 1996. That was your number five. Last minute. I know, last minute. Well, you're not the only one here. I want to have a good time, too. I want to talk about my movie stars because I have a movie star performance right now as well. And it switch. It was my number four. I had to make some some last minute rearranging. It was the tough switch. The my top five are I watch these all the time. All the time I watch all these films. First up, Nick, you're my ambassador of Cohen. It's Jerry Maguire, my favorite Cameron Crowe film. I adore this movie. Typically watch it every 18 months or so. I re listen to the commentary which which has Crowe Cruise, Renee and Cuba on it. They're all on it, I cannot tell. This is like listening to a completely different person, Tom cruise, than the Tom cruise on the Jerry Maguire Jerry Maguire commentary, which sounds like it was 2002 because they're referencing vanilla Sky. So they recorded in 2002 completely different than Tom cruise in 2025. I mean, he's making jokes, he's funny, he's dropping F-bombs. He's talking about what a nightmare he was on set that particular day or during rehearsals. He loves Rene and Cuba so much. He loves when they're on screen. He just sounds like a normal guy. So I don't know. I really recommend it, but I love this movie so much. I think it's a really good modern love story, and I think it's altogether kind of perfect and definitely gets sentimental in ways that people may not think I would like, but I think it's so well earned. And yeah, love it, love this film. This is, So, okay, I have to say, like, I was going to bring this up about your sentimentality because I know how much you love this movie. I, I I'll be honest, like, I remember watching this movie around the time where it came out. And quite frankly, when I was younger, this movie never did it for me. I always was just like, you know, I mean, it's fine. That was my stance on it. I rewatched it like two weeks ago. Oh, because I was like, you know what? Alex fucking loves this movie. And I never got into it. And I was like, let me give it its due right here, I don't know. And and I truly believe that this must be an age thing, because what I'm about to say about this movie, and this was the one that I chose Dead Man over I, this was Jerry Maguire, was my number nine one. Got a huge chuckle out of the fact of how sentimental it was, and knowing how much you love it, and I was just sort of like laughing the entire time. I was like, I can't believe Alex likes this this much, but this might be one of the most life affirming movies I've ever seen. That's why I am okay with the sentimentality. This dude doesn't complete fucking breakdown and he's so messy trying to climb out of it. So like, he's latching onto all these little things and the sentimentality of like, I actually don't know if I love you, but I really love your kid. Like, I get along well with the kid that's rough and that's real. It's so. And then him realizing like, no, wait a minute, no, I love this woman, so I'm going to fucking run home, fly home and make it in front. I just, I dig I'm getting chills talking about. I dig it all. I fucking love the whole way. Like just pointing at Cuba Gooding and they give a hug, you know? Oh, yeah. And you're like my agent. Yep. I mean, it's just he's great. Like they're all great. I love this film. You're right. Because when I was watching this movie, you know, you really are watching this man who is like having a shrew. It's not even a midlife crisis because he's young, but he's having a complete avalanche in his life happening. But the movie carries a tone that's so light. And Billy Wilder, it's a Billy Wilder movie. Yeah, that's what that's what he's trying to make. Yeah. And so. But at no point, though, are you unaware of where this guy is at. So it's not like a situation where the tone of the movie trumps the, the stakes or the reality, but you don't necessarily get bogged down by the movie's always carrying this sort of like sunshine as opposed to a cloud. Even though Tom cruise has got a cloud over him the entire time, it's really I don't know how that's done, to be honest. Like, that's a very, very big testament to Cameron Crowe to pull that off. And then even when there's times where I had this moment where I when he's singing free falling in the car, free. When it first started, I was like, like it got like I was like, this is stupid, this is dumb. It's very cheesy. And then I thought about it. I go, but goddamn it, I've been in this situation where it's like, I haven't come back. I haven't exactly. And it was exactly where he's at in his life, because it's not like he's overcome it. But he had a win. It's a stat. Yes, he had one win, a win, a win. And then the song comes on on the radio. He didn't pick it on his phone. Yeah, it wasn't like it just it's there that's happened to me. Yeah. Like when you're in that mood and the right song on the radio when you're driving and it's like I'm free fall and baby, whatever the fuck the song is. Yep. And it just matched everything. So is a funny situation where it's like. It's. When it first started, I was like, here is this is cheesy. But then I'm like, well, actually, I fucking yeah, I get the idea. And then by the end when he's like hitting the wheel, I'm like, got like goosebumps. And so yeah, man, this movie really, really is something. And, it's a it's a very surprising movie. And when it was over, I was like, this is one of the most life affirming movies that you could ever see. It's it's magic. It's it's actual true movie magic. I love to hear that in that passion behind it, because this is also like kind of a rare I don't it's like to call it a romantic comedy is a bit reductive, but when this movie ends, spoiler alert, I think they are going to be together. Like for the duration. There are a lot of movies that end, especially ones with like teenagers where like, you guys are going to be broken up in two weeks. Like, what a cool, you had your happy ending. But it's I just believe it. I believe they've been through so much shit. They met under odd circumstances, like, I don't know, I've always been a huge sucker for it. And the sentimentality we're talking about, I think his he hasn't he hasn't made a movie in a while, but his last like 3 or 4 films were just, buried, like drowning in this mucky, obvious sentimentality. I'm like, is this. It is Elizabethtown. We, we bought a zoo. And then I'm like, those are not for me at all, like I do. Like we bought a zoo. I really strongly dislike that movie. Like, I, I did not like it at at all. Anyway, love Jerry Maguire. So glad to hear you rewatch it. Gave it a shot because I. Yeah, that's that one's always hit for me. Yeah I it was, it was actually a real bummer to take that off my list. But I had to. It's not show friends show business. Right. What a line number four for me yet is your number for your number five was Romeo and Juliet. Romeo and Juliet. Their high school reunion. All right, so number four, this is one of the only true prestige movies that I have on here. There's only two of them, I believe. Maybe three. That's debatable, but this is the one where, probably the most recent movie to me. And we've covered this in an episode we've already done before of a certain director, but I am bringing it into the picture. Paul Thomas Anderson's debut movie, hard eight Love It, also known as Sidney, surprisingly did not make my list. This is one where I'm like, am I really doing this? I know, I know, and it I just had to like it's hard. Eight is it a better movie than Breaking the Waves? It's certainly more entertaining and rewatchable and don't get me wrong. But you know, it's just it's just what we're talking about here. Some things have to go, some things stay. But yeah, this is a great movie. And I remember when we recorded the PTA podcast, I think I gave you shit because you ranked. This is like your number three favorite PTA. And I was like, you just watch it. You got to like, take it easy a little bit, but you you're coming at it hard. So I love that it shows up here too. I've really, really liked this movie. I've seen this is not a prestige movie either. This is. No, it's not, but when you look at this list, though, I mean, it really is like there's two movies that stand out on here as being, like, prestige movies. No cable guy. Well, nothing ever could be. But yeah. No, I think this is, Paul Thomas Anderson, man. This fucking guy, I, we, I know we've said this about him before, but, you know, when you talk about directors that when you, when you do a director's filmography, you start to start to start to see the, the similarities and the correlations between their work. And you're like, oh, this is what this artist is always after in their work. Yeah, I he's a complete mystery. Every single movie he's ever done does not feel like any of the other ones. There's maybe a look to it that could be somewhat similar, but it's just it's not even a look necessarily, as much as it's just absolute technique perfection. And they just they're there is no similarity. They're all their own unique here is this individual perfect fucking movie. And hard A is his first, and it is just as polished and his technically sound as Boogie Nights as fucking anything he's ever done. And you would never believe this is someone's first fucking movie. It's really bizarre. It's actually a little more it might even be a little more polished. It's a little more. It follows more convention formula than something like Boogie Nights, which is like boom, going off. So it is a little more, but it's still gorgeous. Shot. Robert Elswit shot. It looks like a shot. Same film stock as Boogie Nights. It looks great. So it's just a lot of fun. It's rare and you get a rare PTA commentary for it. And he is fucking mad on this commentary. He is mad that the studio wouldn't let him start the movie, how he wanted to, that they wouldn't let him have the title he wanted. You wanted to call it Sidney, and so he's he's mad and it's it's a great listen. And Sidney, as much as I complain about name titles for for movies. Oh, here it comes again. Oh, yeah. So when you like the movie, then the name titles. Okay. No, he's still in high school. I still don't think I'm still the most generic milquetoast name ever. I think I would watch I like it better than hard eight. I like the I don't know what else is good a Nora great title. What about Jerry Maguire? Are you are you going to are you changing all these titles to like, the sports agent? I know, I don't know, I don't know what I would call Jerry Maguire, but I wouldn't call it Jerry Maguire. I see I think Jerry Maguire fits perfectly. It makes me want to watch it. All right. The thing, the rule I have is if you're going to shit on it, I will not hear you're shitting unless you come up with a serviceable alternative. All right. I'll I'll I'll, I'll, I'll I'll think of something. Not in this spot. You're going to get a random text, and that's going to be my title. Great for Jerry Maguire. Look, the agent don't don't sleep until you get it. It's so funny that knowing what we know about him now, they wouldn't let him keep. And they wouldn't let him keep his original title. And speaking to your thing about how all of his movies are different, well, I mean, by the time this episode comes out, we're going to be weeks away from his latest one starring Leo. It's right. It is about what? Like, I'm not great at math. I think the budget's 250 or 150 million. His highest budget so far was Magnolia, 39 million. That's nuts. Yeah, that is a huge, huge leap. It is his longest movie. Two hours and 55 zero minutes, I don't know. We're going to see. It's based on text that the writer of Inherent Vice wrote. So we're I think that's his most challenging movie. So we are going to see we're going to see we're going to see a shitload of money. He has never been given that much money. But yeah. All right. My number four. Oh, man. What a gem it was a thing in 96. Watch it with my parents. I don't even know where to start. They learned me to do what they told me to do. It's Billy Bob Thornton sling blade. Yes, Carl Childers, believe it or not, Carl Childers was a thing in 1996. Everyone was doing that impression. He orders French fried potatoes from Jim Jarmusch there. Yeah, Billy Bob was in one scene of Jarmusch of Dead Man. So Jarmusch came and did one scene of Sling Blade. I yeah, I love this movie. I don't know what got into me, but I decided to show Allie this. It just like kind of came up because she we're learning that she really likes movies with not a lot of people like not a lot of characters, just simple story. And there's like, you know, six characters in this. She loved it and still talks about it. She's like, that's one of the best movies I've ever seen. And I would not think that, wow, this small like homegrown Arkansas based movie would be one of her favorites ever. And so when she saw that I was watching it for this, she just sat and watched like the rest of it. I mean, she loves it. I I've seen this movie so many times. Oh my God. Do you have a list of Ali's like, like of the movies where because like, I love how you bring it up on the pod because, like, there's these movies that you'll single out that she's made a point to. Yeah, she. My wife is not the biggest movie person. I'm TV or whatever it is, but we've been in this crazy currently right now two month long horror binge where she just wants to watch scary movies. We're just crushing, tape crushing scary movie tape. But if the thing is, like, I don't even know how I pick them sometimes, like, I have to have a kind of I, I don't really know how to what to call it. I guess I will get like a a feeling where I have to watch a movie. Yeah. And I have like two weeks to do it. And I'm like, you got to like, you got to watch Sling Blade. Like, why, I don't know, this was a year ago. And I'm like, you got to do it. And I'll tell her I've been I've having like a hankering to watch this again. And then, I mean, just from the first sequence on, she was totally engrossed, totally loved it. It would be fun to have her all and talk about it, but the that's the surprising one. Good time. She loved like, oh my God, that she loved good time with patents and Uncut Gems she loves. Triangle of Sadness is probably the most surprising one, which we just rewatched two weeks ago. Like she she loves that thing so much. And again, I don't even know how I pick that. It's so like her to watch it. But yeah, she loves it. And they're just some crazy ones that have popped out. My number three is actually yet another one that I didn't really know she would like, and she adored by Sling Blade. People go see this if you haven't seen it. If you have, go rewatch it. I on the director's cut just a little bit longer on DVD. Fantastic. It's nowhere to be found. Sling blade. Yep. You can't even rent it for you. Can't even rent it on Amazon. This is because of the person who produced and released it. He is doing this with a lot of movies. He just did it with dogma, and Kevin Smith finally won that back. But it's Harvey Weinstein. He's holding a lot of this stuff hostage and not releasing the rights to, probably for money reasons. But yeah, that that is what's happening. I mean, I, I didn't realize it was that sparse because it used to be available, but yeah, I put on the good old fashioned DVD. God, it's just, this isn't on my list because, I this was one of those ones where I wanted to rewatch it for this pod, and, Yeah, it was just unavailable, and it it has been for, like a few months. And I was like, I guess I'm just not going to get this one in. I even tried looking it up on like, things and I was like, shit, this is just completely off market. But, because I've only seen it once when it came out and I did not have any kind of appreciation for it, I think I was yeah, it's way better as an adult because even like, he talks funny, he walks funny. He's clearly a simple guy. He thought he doesn't have like the mental acuity of someone his age. Okay, but but he is all heart. He's all heart. He's just love. He's just a simple person who. It's really a beautiful, beautiful movie about friendship, understanding, acceptance. John Ritter is in it. He's fantastic. Makes me get tears. I know, teary eyed every time I watch it. They were really good friends. Billy and John Ritter, Billy Bob. So I mean, just the making of, Sling Blade is fantastic because you get to see Billy Bob Thornton directing, and then in the same shot, he's just sitting there and he looks like Billy Bob, and he does this little, like, circle spin with his head and becomes Carl, and you see his face change and you're like, Jesus, it looks like a different person. I yeah, all his story. He just created the whole damn thing in his head. That's wild. I love Sling Blade. Yes. One, one. The, original screenplay Oscar Sling Blade did or was it adapting? I don't know, but one. One of them. Oh that's awesome. Yeah, he won it. He he gets up there. Golly gee. The first thing he says oh golly gee. Billy. All right, sling blade. My number four. We're in the top three. Top three maybe. Let's do it all right. Oh, yeah. So this this this this was so my number one is like that that that was cemented from that when the second that this podcast came up, I already knew what that was going to be. So really coming down between 2 and 3 was real tough. Okay. Number three, one of the greatest comedies ever made, The Birdcage. I knew it had to be on your list, not on mine, which is a this is a terrible, terrible travesty. But I knew it had to make your list. And yes, thank you. That hysterical, perfect comedy. Yeah. It is, it's just amazing. And we've talked about it on a few different episodes. Yeah. One of our earliest of, best, plays adapted into film. I think this is, definitely one of them. It, even though, however you want to find that source material. This technically was a play before anything else. And I just think it's just absolutely perfect. This this literally is one of those. Here we go. The. What are you watching, Nick? Those still note perfect movies. There it is. The NP. Yes. Right. The the the what? The WWII w and ndi NP. And there's got a version that of course is there, there's a shirt that says I'm making my it was just speaking of my wife. It was just brought to my attention that I always do this just in real life. She goes, you always. As soon as someone says something, you make these fucking, like, callous abbreviations. You just, like, reduce it down. And I go, you should do every other part. I do it all the time. Well, because this one's hilarious. Because the. What are you watching, Nick Doe? Still no perfect movie. Like. But no, this is true. It is, though. It is. It absolutely. Is it from start to finish, every character, every moment, every bit. I mean, Mike Nichols, just the absolute like goat when it comes to movies that are like this, I actually know there is the one missing. No, the fucking sun. That's the one guy I. I take it off the list. He retract the list. The bit about the NP. Yeah, I retracted, ended up writing Capote. That guy in real life Dan Futterman. Really? Yeah, yeah. Did a few wrote Capote. He, Oh, he was in that movie. Mighty Heart with Angelina Jolie playing that journalist, that poor guy. But yeah, he's not perfect in this. No. And so he has to I it's it can't be a no. It can't be a way to end the, NP well unfortunately, but it still is number three in my 1996 fuck, he wrote Foxcatcher as well. Wow. Wow. Okay. All right. Good for him. It deserves to be there. Yeah. I mean, Elaine May wrote this Nichols in May, one of the great, you know, comedy duo. So they're working together again Emmanuel Lubezki. Chivo shot this like it's, you know, I rewatched it after Hackman passed part of my Hackman binge who I think is just fantastic in the movie. So yeah, I love The Birdcage. Yeah, I think it's a great pic. I also have a comedy of sorts. I've watched it three times this year for no real other reason other than I was going to go visit Fargo, North Dakota just for fun because I never been checking off all the states great little town. So I spun crush tape on Joel and Ethan Coen's Fargo a bunch of times. For Elliott, I went kind of humorous. Very little of the film actually takes place in Fargo, but how it was, Fargo was a much better title than Brainerd. Oh, it's 98 minutes long. Its main characters introduced about 35 minutes in the murder scenes, are staged so damn well. And not just those like the abduction sequence, you know, it's hilarious. It. I want to cite two specific examples that you really are not supposed to do in screenwriting. And this won the Oscar for screenwriting. And Frances McDormand rightly won Best actress. For this thing of, passing critical information or the discovery of critical information from minor characters, two examples. One is toward the end, when a cop we have barely seen goes to interview a guy that we have never seen. The guy's a shovel in his driveway. We get that he's a bartender and we get that we think he's recently had a conversation with Steve Buscemi's character. Conversation got weird. This bartender's nice. So the next day he's calling it in the whole scenes capture in one take. It's brilliant. These two guys are never going to be a reference again. We're never going to see this bartender again. It's just weird. Like, you do not do this. The bigger example and I apologize for my pronunciation, but it's Steve Park playing the fat Mike guy. I don't even want to try his last name. I'll just get it wrong. But the old classmate of Marge, he's called up, you know, they meet for lunch. And these scenes, this scene with him and then Marge figuring everything out are among the finest sequences the Coens have ever put on screen. Because Frances McDormand, Marge catches this fucking weirdo creep in a lie, and then that forces her to reexamine car salesman Jerry Lundegaard story in If my old classmate can just lie straight to my face, maybe this used car salesman isn't telling the truth either. None of that is communicated explicitly. It is within a conversation that has seemingly nothing to do with anything. And then we watch her face figure it out. These are two very small reasons why this movie is fucking brilliant. Endlessly rewatchable. I'm oh my God, I smoke and going and chasing after the couple in the car and he just like, oh my god, I can't. Peter Stormare I lost it for a second. Oh, he's so good, so good. I you know, what can you say about Fargo? It's I could call it my favorite movie of the year, and it would be fair. That's why it's my number two. Yeah, we have money. Covid. Finally. I didn't know that. Well, okay. So you. Yeah. You're fan. Okay, okay. Well, last time you watched it, I mean I've it's been it's been probably like a few years, but this was probably I mean I think this is my most watched Coen brothers movie. I, I've seen this before or No Country, but yeah, it's probably this. And, just before I let you go, quick aside, I've been chipping away now at my Coens because I got back into this usually early stuff did Miller's Crossing. Right now I'm in the middle of Intolerable Cruelty. Oh, yeah. He hated the first time I saw it, and now I'm like, no, no, no, this is he's doing Cary Grant and Barbara Stanwyck. That's exactly what this is. Just in the 2000s. Clooney is so big, it's his girl Friday. Like, I totally get this now and I am just really enjoying it. So I with age, that movie's gotten better. But Fargo is just always hit. Always. It's always hit, I think. I think if I had to put it, I think it would probably be my number one Coen brothers movie. I think it's it's it's just that good. Yeah. We talked about that in the No Country commentary. Yeah. It's tough. It's very, very tough. But I was going to ask you, based off of the examples you were talking about with the writing, how those are no nos. Do you think the reason that maybe that's a work is because you're like, you know, the the title of the movie is called Fargo. So you're talking about this town that basically the ways of communication that you're getting. So by getting these important pieces of, you know, of information that we need to get, even though you're getting it from all these kind of characters that are off there, we're not going to see it works because this is how the town works. Yeah, they've built this web. And also the thing with the guy shoveling his driveway, I'm a true crime fan. I used to write crime stories for newspapers and magazines. That's very common in crime stories. You get this one lead that you think is completely insignificant. Usually in real life IRL, it's the law enforcement officers who are not following up on each individual lead. So if you go watch like a dateline, they're like, you can, you know, in minute 20, you're like, well, wait, it's that guy. And then someone sent a note to someone, to some detective that never got read or an email never got opened. And then ten years later, that thing's read. And it's like, oh, it just says right here that it's that guy. So you get this what's called like a break in the case and all he does is like, describe the, you know, the car. So it's just you're chipping away. The more obscure thing is her meeting with the old classmate and then we like I mean, that took me many, many, many, many viewings and many essays or me rereading Roger Ebert's enthusiastic praise of this movie over and over to understand the context of what that those scenes mean. Like, no, this dude is she's not dead. His wife is not dead. No, he went crazy, did this and that. And then the Marge is like, wait, what? Because she's so good. She's so pure. She can't believe that this, like, not unlike No Country. Little bit. That kind of makes for a good double feature, because no country is way down here and more violent and hardcore. But Tommy Lee Jones is on that same journey. Like, I don't understand these crimes. I've never seen anything like this. So yeah, I mean, yeah. Fargo. God, I love it that it is your number two. Our first our first official shared movie. Yes. No. Well. Oh, yes. Because what else? Scream. Well I don't know. I can't, I can't scream. That movie sucks, man. I don't have that movie no one want. I've rewatched it recently and I'm like, this is this is weak. This is fucking weak. My number two, because you're number two is Fargo. Oh, boy. Episode 121. That's going to suck. Yes, this has to be I got to be here. That episode was a doozy. That is where we talked about Barry Levinson. Sleepers. And I have never received more positive feedback. More feedback really, for any episode than I did for that one. Everyone was so, so kind. I don't know how many people have listened to that, so I'm just going to retell the story that I told in that episode right now. Just kidding. I love this movie. No no no no. It's very important to me. It it helped click a lot of, complications of life into perspective for me. I did indeed see this when it was released. I was young, but it yes, very, very important. And I've been meaning to tell this on the pilot and I just completely forgot last year. Utterly random. I met Kevin Bacon. I'm like walking out of a restaurant and his band is about to put on a concert, and I'm like, whoa! So I went just to get a different look. He's a, you know, they're about to perform, and I find myself behind the stage and I'm I'm like an idiot sitting there looking at the back of the stage. And, you know, there's just like people around. And I realize I'm standing shoulder to shoulder. Kevin Bacon, he's like, getting ready to go on. And I just went I looked to my right and I went, oh fuck, that's him. Whoa, whoa. And we just lock eyes and, you know, I have nine seconds with Kevin Bacon. So what do I say? I thank him for his career and tell him about just before he first meets me. And he goes, wow. Like what they said back. And he's like that one, hun. I went, I know, I know, but Sean Noakes man like yes, yes it was and then he's like, all right, see I just ran up on stage. I will see you later. I was like, how the fuck did that just happen? That was so cool. That's awesome. Looks great. What a nice guy who was saying hi to people like super, super nice guy. But yeah. Sleepers. The most, depraved character he will ever play likely is the one that I called out, I don't know. So yeah, it was good. There's that one movie that he played. Like. Yeah, he's he's been he's been some baddies. He's been some. Yeah. He's got some pedophile, stuff. Oh the woods man. And woods. Woods and the different. Yeah, that guy's bad, but he wasn't in charge of anything. I don't think it's a little worse when you're, like, paid to protect. That's true. And rehabilitate these kids. And then you're taking to the basement to have your little fun. One down, shakes one down. Fuck you. Sean Noakes. When I went to New York in January, I tried to go to that bar where, you know, the big scene happens and it still has the same name and everything. And I walk in and I'm like, I walk in. I'm like, this doesn't look different. And the bouncer goes, sleepies! And I said, yeah. And he's like, we changed locations a while ago. And I went, damn it. He's like, oh, but it still has kind of the same esthetic. It did. I was bummed, I was, I was very, very excited to go see that bar. And it did not look the same. So that's New York for you. But the guy was really cool. He knew a lot. You know, for a doorman, he was extremely well informed. That's right. On his way to Detroit. Bring it up to Chicago. Right. Make them all right. Sleepers. My number two. God, I love it. Yeah. Go listen to 121. Listen, you know, with a cup of coffee, maybe. Oh, with a cup of coffee. All right, we're here. Number one. I, I actually don't know what you're going to say because you said it was like you knew it right away as soon as we heard. Unless I do know. And that will be very surprising to me. But hit us with it. I have a guess. You've already mentioned it. You've already had this on your list. Okay, then. No. Then I'm. Then I'm wrong. It is undoubtedly. In my opinion, it is the second greatest action movie ever made. It is the Rock with like no action, the wrong number one. What's number one? What's the number one action movie Die hard? Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I mean, action wise, I don't know, man. The Rock like, has more going on Die Hard with. Well, I mean, the rock has, the rock has got more action. Yeah, yeah. Favorite action movie? You know what? Someone on Letter box just said sorry. And then I'll shut up. We should do a, To. No. Is Igor sorry? Was Igor did the honor come with me? It's like you guys need to do a podcast where you name your favorite movie of each Sandra. Like, oh, 1 or 2 favorites. So like war, like, he said. Drama. Like, you pick your drama war, and you can get kind of specific, like, favorite characters. So that's a great I think it's kind of a funny this asshole keeps feeding me good ideas and I'm like, God damn it. So, so like this, you could be like, action. The rock and or Die Hard. But, dude, I had no idea this is gonna rank so highly. That's awesome. Oh, my God, this was, I mean, I mean, this movie has it all. You got Nicolas Cage, so nuff said already. And then you've also got. And we're talking about Sean Connery. Amazing. Kind of like champagne wallah. Yep. You got doctor good speed Ed Harris, who quite possibly is the most justified villain of ever like that's ever existed, is not doing anything bad. He wants like more money for soldiers that were killed. Like it's not a bad thing at all. He's going about it. Yeah. We bluff. They called it. I want my fucking money. I mean, it's humble from Alcatraz out the outtakes from this movie of Harris. Like losing it or fucking great. What? He can't remember his lines, and he's like, God damn it. All right, go. Go get go again. I love this movie, dude. I fucking love it. Foreign and intense. And you got Michael Bean and one of the greatest Michael Biehn scenes ever. I mean, it's just it has everything. And then the score is awesome. Fantastic. Yeah. Lights out. Harry Gregson Williams I work out to this score. Oh. Name drop. Oh, yeah. Name drop. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't have been able to get that name. Oh, wow. You work out, dude, I work out, dude. The Jets Denton Denton Denton Denton Denton Denton Denton on IMDb. It says it's Nick Glenn air Smith and Hans Zimmer. Well, I fuck up. Okay. So okay, so we're we're we're both right because I'm looking at the Spotify soundtrack score and you've got everyone you've got Nick Lenny Smith, Harry Gregson Williams and Hans Zimmer. Looks like he helped out on enemy the state Armageddon. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Oh man that's awesome. Just it's awesome. This movie's rank so highly I love it. It may be based on this. Maybe I have to rethink about. I mean, Die Hard is just the classic, you know, it's just like. But the rock is a little bit more like, expansive. You've got an elk, you got an island, you got the government. You got. Yeah. But, weapons biologist. I have to wake up three times a night to take a piss. He's like, get me in the streets. I'm like that. You can also feel the punch. Upness like everyone out of hand. Probably like every hot writer at the time. Tarantino probably had his hands on it. So you can feel there's, like, a snapping ass to a lot of the dialog that I don't know, it's just so funny. I love when when Sean Connery punches through the glass, he's like, whoa, Mac, you son of a bitch. Well, no, no. He's like, why am I not surprised, you piece of shit. Why you still got a little lead left in your pencil. You wrecked half the city. You jumped. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like like, ready to rock this. And if he hits the streets, hit it. Like I'm very aware of the time. Yeah. Just once. You know, my boys are ready to rock. Like I'm ready to rock. Where's the lower lighthouse? I got green smoke, a cigaret smoke. I got to smoke. Choke on this, you fuck. Great one. You just keep going. But, yes, that's my number one. The rock. I love it, my number one, I don't know, I was gonna there's an obvious choice here. But then I thought, what's the point there? All the same? Some stupid killer stalking some big breasted girl who can't act, who's always running up the stairs when she should be running out the front door. It's insulting. Wes Craven scream has been one of my favorite movies I have ever seen. It was my favorite movie the day it came out. Up until I was God, I don't know, like a long time. It was in my top ten forever. Episode 47. We talked about scream one and two. Yeah, it was just a no brainer. Went there right away and I'm like, is this the most prestigious film of the year? Of course not, but definitely one of the most important. It redefined an entire genre, and the entire genre of horror changed right there. It's I just loved Wes Craven's movie right before was so hyper meta, the, Wes Craven's New Nightmare, where you have, like, the actors playing and Freddy Krueger movies talking, and then the the characters are like coming to life. It's more meta than scream, and they're like, all right, let's give it another stab. Scream. And it's fantastic. Scream as an adult scream shame. And, I'm missing one. Are the movies I've seen the most? Without question. I pulp a pulp Fiction. Yeah, I, I can I mean we got crush and tape. I think I broke a few scream VHS is just watching it over and over and over. Still have most of the thing memorized. So yeah, that's my number one. I think I just I love the film so, so much and I will watch it forever. 4K looks great actually. Looks like genuinely stunning. So yeah. Scream started. Yeah you are right. We had three scream yeah Fargo and the Rock and the Rock and Fargo and Fargo was the closest one. Yeah I think that was my two. Your three. Yeah. No, no I was right. Those are the three I thought we were going to have. I didn't know if it would be Fargo or Jerry Maguire, but I didn't know how you felt about Jerry Maguire and now. So that's cool. That was that was that. That was the esoteric one. That was all right. That's a good list. You want to run through them before we get to other stuff or just get to the other, you know, we got to run through it. Come on. What are we here for? Right. I'll go first. My number ten. Yeah. Real, crowd pleaser. Breaking the Waves by Lars von Trier. Number nine. Great documentary. When we were kings. Number eight. Primal fear. Number seven. From dusk till dawn. Number six, the rock. Number five, Jerry Maguire. Number four. Sling blade. Number three, Fargo. Number two, sleepers. And number one. It's a scream, baby. Yeah! Let's do it. Number ten, the frighteners. Number nine, dead man. Number eight. Scream number seven. Twister. Number six, the cable guy, Jim Carrey's greatest. Number five. Romeo and Juliet. Number four. Hard eight. Three. The Birdcage almost almost Y and the NP. But not quite. Yes. And number two, which number two could actually be a. I have to think about that. But that is a pretty perfect movie. Fargo's 100% no perfect apps. It is. So there we go. Finish it. It's there is not a bad note found in that. There's not there's not one bad thing. So there we go. So that is the, Wawa and NP Fargo number two. And then number one, the rock. Damn right. What did you miss. What did we miss. Not something we miss. Not that we forgot about it. We just, you know, had to make room. I'll do my honorable mentions quickly. I also had Bird Cage, Dead Man and Hard eight, which were on yours. But yeah, I mean bound. That was Chelsea's first film. Wow. Made an honorable mention or, prominent placement in my erotic thrillers episode. If you go back and listen to that dude, I, I that was one of the movies I watched for this part because I had never seen it. And oh, and you think I loved it? I thought it was so, so good, dude. What's his name? Maloney. No. Not Maloney. Oh. Joey pants. Yeah. Joey Pantoliano. Yeah, yeah. No. Yeah. It's like, whoa. Fucking dark in here. Yeah. Caesar. What a desert. Dude, I, that's a great flick. It's really, really great. I mean, I didn't know what to expect. And as it's starting to kind of go and I'm, like, all right, all right, but then, I mean, I'm just compelled more and more and I'll tell you, those interiors, all those rooms there, you can't stop thinking about them like they're so special. They're just really. Well. Well done. Yeah, I really, really enjoyed it. Had a lot of fun with it. So I just wanted to because I know there was a movie that you wrecked really hard. You're like, bound is like your favorite with Kowski. I don't know if you like The Matrix more, but, I like bound is my favorite. Yeah. It's kind of like the Peter Jackson Frighteners Lord of the rings exact thing, and so I yeah, I was wondering if that was actually going to make your list because, of that. But yes, I just want to point out bound was awesome. Yeah. I'm so glad you watch it. So glad David Cronenberg's crash. Well, man, John Sayles is Lone Star. Really wanted to include this one, even if you haven't seen this. No, I think, I think Lone Star might be, like, your favorite of the year. I'm not even joking. Go check it out. I'm dead serious. Really? So your type of movie? Lone stars, fan tastic. Like, okay, it. Yeah. I don't even want to say too much about it. It's just so, so good. Yeah, don't say it. I don't even know who's in it and never even heard of it. I won't, I won't. You'll recognize people in it. Tom Hanks, his first movie as director. That thing you do. I love that film. Love that Soderbergh's get topless. Yeah, I know that movie on this pod. Edward Burns is. She's the one always love that movie. And then Doug Lyman's first film, swingers. Yeah. All close to making my cut. These were the ones that were closest to making my cut. And there's one I want to talk about but didn't make my cut, but I wanted to bring it up. Bottle rockets. Bottle rockets, of course. Wes Anderson, that was one that we came really close. I had a hard time not putting that one in. Happy Gilmore. Speaking of Happy Gilmore two coming out, shooter, I was actually surprised that wasn't make errors because of Chris Mack. I love him. I love this movie. I jokingly brought it up during your number one. But multiplicity, that. Oh, yeah, that was a key. I love Keaton, that was a movie. Like, I remember my mom and I, there was a period of time where we had we had because like my mom and I, like, there was period of time where we would have cable and then not have cable because we just couldn't pay for it. But there was one period of time where we had, I don't know if it was HBO, but it was some movie channel that you paid for and multiplicity was on all the time. I must say the same thing, because I remember that there was a stretch when it was just always on. It was always, yeah. And if that very much felt like an HBO like 2:00 in the afternoon, that was just this the time of the day that that movie went out. It's real. And, and, and I would just watch it every time it came on, and I just, I enjoyed every second of it. I, I love Michael Keaton. I, I have not stopped thinking about that weird thing that you brought up back in the Martin Scorsese podcast where we were talking about After Hours. Yes. Yeah. It's right. It's better. It would. It's right there. Keaton was the main guy. Yeah. God damn it. That would. Because there's so much I love about that movie. Except for that actor. Yeah. Griffin no disrespect. Yeah. Griffin. Dunne. Yep. Griffin's under the unibrow. Hamlet Kenneth Branagh oh, wow. Okay. Which is, maybe the best put to move puts a film version of that story. I it's hard to say. It's a it's a specific take, but I mean, I think you'll get the best overall story on film of hamlet from that version of it. And there's a lot of great actors, Kate Winslet in it. Lot of really great stuff in there. Good movie, The Bad Sleep well, real quick. The Bad Sleep Well by Kurosawa is like hamlet light. That's my favorite. And then Throne of Blood is his Macbeth. So those are my two favorite Shakespeare's. Those were. I mean, the bad sleep well, modernize modernized for when the movie came out, which was yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that is what it's about. And it is fantastic. That's awesome. And then, oh, I watched one movie that I just wanted to bring because I didn't think it was very good, but I watched it because I thought it was actually supposed to be good people versus Larry Flynt. Yeah, it doesn't go it doesn't. It just didn't get there. They're great. They're all good in it. But it's not. It is not cool. Yeah. It's not even man on the moon. No it's not on my days. No. Yeah. But then I watched a movie that I don't know if you've seen. I think you have, though. This is Nicolas Winding Refn's first movie. Pusher. Pusher? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's three of those. There's three of them. Yep. So. But the first one came out in 1996, according to all things. So I watched that and, very much enjoyed it. I really liked it. It did it. It came close to circling my list, but didn't quite get there. But I wanted to throw it out there and be like, that was a, that's a that's about as raw as it gets. Yeah. And for like a first time, like making a movie, the sound isn't quite there. Some shots are like and things like that. Right. But but I like it to get it and it works and but I mean man, I mean that fucking main character, he just fucking can't let it go. So I cannot let it go. The conversation. So I have not seen that since drive because drive is when I went back and watched all of his stuff. So it's been and that's another one. I've had this like the hankering for Drive and Neon Demon double feature. I'm like, I got it and do I put it? Oh, only God Forgives. Not a good movie, not a it's an imperfect movie. But there are things about it that I like want to fight is what there's things about it. And then he gets his ass kick. Maybe I'll do a triple feature sometime. I don't know, when the hell am I gonna have time for that? I gotta finish Intolerable Cruelty. Okay, those are good ones. Those are good picks. Yeah, those are some great ones I want to talk about real quick when we're talking about the legacy of the year. Roger Ebert's top ten of the year. His number one was Fargo. He also had breaking the waves on there. That was his number three, which is what led me to watch it. His number four was Lone Star, so I'm bringing that up again. His number six was bound. His number seven was hamlet. Yeah. So we're making some good, good Rex here. Roger Ebert's top ten of the 1990s. The decade Fargo and Breaking the Waves made the cut. Wow. Yeah. So, okay. Selling breaking the waves here. It's. Yeah. Real quick. This must be fun. Some debut films we talked about a few Primal Fear, Gregory, Hobbit, Sling Blade, Billy Bob Thornton, Bottle Rocket, Wes Anderson, big night, great film directed by Stanley Tucci and Campbell Scott. Great film about putting on a meal for people. One night I watched it. Yeah, yeah, I was just just sort of in on it. It's it's, like day trippers before day trippers. It's that same group, you know, they're all doing that stuff. So it's a small movie. I just I love that final shot. The last shot I think is just like really, really good and kind of what's being communicated without saying anything. Bound. Beavis and Butt-Head Do America. Mike Judge's first movie, That Thing You Do, I Shot Andy Warhol, Mary Herron's first movie, swingers. Citizen Ruth Alexander Payne's first movie, a movie I quite enjoy lot part eight The Pallbearer Matt Reeves his first movie. I'm just bringing that up because Matt Reeves is like crazy famous. Now the apes movies and the Batman and all that bad shit walking, talking. Nicole Hall of Centers first, Basquiat, Julian Schnabel's first. Who do we lose? Deaths of 1996. The legendary Don Simpson give it up credit at the end of the Rocky. He lived hard, and it sounds like he died that way too. Gene Kelly passed away. Martin Balsam, one of the greatest character actors of all time, love Martin Balsam. We lost him. We lost Krzysztof Kieslowski in 1996. Oh yeah, we lost Tupac Shakur. It was a big year. Oh, shit. Yeah. So there are some huge losses. No one knows who Christoph is. And you go to Tupac. Chris, people know who people is in this podcast. No. Christoph. Well, yeah, I was going to chronological order the year. Sorry. Oscars. It was the English patient year. It steamrolled everything. One thing that's really strange about this Oscars that I didn't really know. Technically, The English Patient was set up by 20th Century Fox and then later backed by Miramax, but I decided to rewatch that with the commentary on Anthony Minghella's commentary. And he says over and over, this was an independent movie. We didn't make this with the studio. The studio bailed on us. We had to make it independently, which, you know, it's like a 25, $30 million movie. But technically, English Patient is an independent movie. I never knew that. I thought it was like some huge, sweeping studio movie. It's not. Yeah, yeah. Emma, Fargo, Secrets and lies, shine, Sling Blade, and The English Patient all won Oscars that year. All independent films. It's pretty crazy. Wine scene was behind a lot of those, but I don't know. That is pretty crazy. I want to talk about Best Actor. Do you? If you have an opinion on this of like, who should have won because Geoffrey Rush won for shine? I poke fun at that, moving that performance a lot because people just haven't seen it. And he's in 30 minutes of it. It doesn't feel like necessarily a lead performance, but he had it in the bag. He was the first actor who won the Oscar, Screen Actors Guild, BAFTA Critics Choice Award and Best Actor Drama at the Golden Globes for the same performance. So he wins, but also Tom cruise, Jerry Maguire, race wins for The English Patient, a nomination I completely forgot about during the US, the most recent Oscar telecast. When I said he been nominated twice. Oops. Woody Harrelson, people versus Larry Flynt, Billy Bob Thornton, Sling Blade, shine I get it. Fine. I always thought they should have given this a cruise. I thought it should have been Tom Cruise's Oscar. You give it to him. It's it's kind of surprising that Ray finds didn't win. Just considering like, everything else that this movie won. That's true. I've never seen The English Patient though, so I so I don't know that that that that movie since day one, I remember that. And I just remember thinking that movie looks to be the epitome of boring. And it's not actually, I'll I'll tell you it's not. It's well made there. Okay. That's good. Gnarly. Action in it. It's very romantic. There's no love triangle, but there's a terrifying, like The English Patient has crashed and is very badly burnt from a plane crash. It's it's it's not a bad movie. It wasn't. I would have I would have given it to Best Picture to cherry, obviously. Listen to our list. Jerry Maguire, Fargo, sling blade. I think they all should one over over English Patient. But I also get why it won. It was that, you know, Braveheart was the year before Big Epic won a bunch of Oscars. English Patient, Titanic. Yeah, they're still in this epic, epic thing. Maybe a more fun is who should have won supporting actor because Cuba Gooding Jr wins for Jerry Maguire. Gives a legendary speech that they really cut off. Like it's like a joke. They start cutting it off like 20s in. It's so stupid, but it's really good. But you had him. He was nominated William H. Macy for Fargo. Amen. Your stall for shine, Edward Norton, primal fear. James Woods goes to Mississippi. I love the Cuba one. Yeah, it's a great performance. It is. I love I wanted Cuba Gooding Jr to win as well. And he did. Yeah I know I like that. I like that a lot though. I mean I think William H. Macy or Edward Norton. Do you mean I'm not going to debate you Jerry. I'm not going to sit here and debate blood has been shed. Jerry. Blood has been shed. I mean, that's such a Coen brothers line to write. I'm not going to debate you. Jerry blood has been shed. I'm not going to debate. All right. That was fun. We have we had very good lists that represent our personalities. Well, I did not expect a rock to be your number one. I love that. Yeah. These are good lists. These are good. No complaints, no notes, no notes, no notes. Now we move on to Wawa. I got some a little different plan for this, but I think you know. Well I've already given minor ways. Oh yeah? Yeah. Let's talk about it. When did you see it? Well, I didn't see it. Jesus fucking. You know what? I'm going to deliver a little behind the scenes here. I don't even think you know this. Every single movie that Nick has recommended as a white W that he's going to see, he has never watched. He has it. That's not true. Yes it is, yes it is. I have the written down. There are so there was like the laughing policeman when we did our 1973. You never fucking watch that. Don't fuck with me you. There's so many with. You're like, so I'm going to be watching this. Zone of interest was yours once when he said so I will be. You see, he's making a face and seeing that. So now I just know that you're never going to see James Gunn. Superbad. When you do this, there's something that happens subconsciously where you're like, no, I recommended that on the pod. And I'm like, but you haven't. You still haven't seen it. Oh yeah, that's right. So that's the I'm just saying a little behind the scenes here, I will you see the film. Well and now I don't know. We're talking about James Gunn Superman I would love to get your take on it for I mean it honestly, it kind of seems like it's already like it's getting kicked out of Imax, because what the hell came in? Oh, fantastic four. It's kind of a bummer how they you really don't get long with these, but if you want to see it in their premium format, so I did. I went and saw it in Imax. It was I don't know, I just had a lot of fun. The crowd it my crowd loved it. Everyone was into it. I went two weeks later because I didn't want to go with like the hardest of core fans. But yeah, I, I don't know. I had a good time. All told, I liked the summer blockbusters. I like the new Mission Impossible, I liked F1, I didn't go back and see F1 like I saw it like I'm I'm kind of good with it. I haven't gone back and rewatch Superman. I want it to, but I would have preferred to do an Imax. But yeah, I, I don't know, I liked it and I do hope you see it. I know that the plan is, is that it's the movie that I'm going to go see in theaters, like, oh, cool. Like that. Okay. That's that's like that's on the list. So that so but now that you brought this new light to it, information to light, I mean, I gotta say, I can't argue with the facts. New shit has come to light. New shit has come to light, man. And I'm like, well, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and, trying to pretend I'm something I'm not, but. Okay, I like it. I hope you see it. That's so funny. I'm like, wait, did you see it? I have it. Okay, I'll be quick. Little, little personal. Whatever. It's fun. Who cares? Everything's fine. Got some new ink last night. In fact, yesterday evening. New tat. And it's related to a movie we've done that we've talked about. Of all the ink I have on me, I'm just. I'm getting closer and closer to memento here because it's all just a bunch of words all over me. There's song lyrics. There's the one that you and I have together. A quote from Aristotle. Right? In episode 114 of this podcast, we covered my favorite spike Lee film, He Got Game, a very emotional film for me because it's one of two movies that I had with my brother, the other being sleepers. So and he got game the I don't I want to go through the whole thing. I want everyone to watch it. But basically the final words that Denzel says to Ray Allen is it's your ball. I mean, if you've seen the movie, you know the context of it, like it's your move. Like, if you want me in your life, I can be. If not, then I'll just go away. But you need to get that anger out of your heart. It's your ball. That's what I got right here on my left forearm. It's your ball. It's in. Really? I got it like it. It's kind of looks scratchy because. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's it's fresh ink. It's just fresh and it looks scratchy because, like the title does on the He Got Game title. It's not orange but yeah. So it's really cool. And then when the artist was done I did not pick the date of yesterday to get the tattoo is when the artist was available and when he was done, I told him the story about my brother and everything, and I said, my brother died by suicide nine years ago today, August 1st, 2016. So life's just weird. It just works out that like, you're getting that tattoo on this day. I don't know, it's just weird. Yeah, that was a day. And then secondly, another movie related tattoo. So technically my second I. Yeah, I don't want to go into the whole story because I'll probably lose it, but I basically got love mom and my mom's handwriting on my right wrist, but it is surrounded with, oh, I know what it is. Yeah, with the Phantom Thread from Phantom Thread. Yeah. So if you go watch the very beginning of Phantom Thread, like the title card, it's my love. Mom isn't stacked, it's Phantom one line and thread on the other. Mine's just one line. But yeah, I have the thread around it and it looks, I don't know, it looks really great because that's the movie that reminds me most of my mom. You know, she had already passed. But yes, some finally some movie tattoos, movie related tattoos. And they're they're fresh. They are. My dogs are barking. I like rubbed up. I was going to work out this morning and I went, don't do that. Like just fucking relax man. But dogs are for no, they're just a little red. It's crazy when you get thanks, man. It's crazy when you get new and it makes your the your older ones look so faded you're like, oh my god. Yeah. Jesus. But yeah I love tats. So yeah. Seven seven text tats now. Fuck yeah I, I'm still riding strong with two giant tattoo. They are big that I absolutely hate with all my heart. Would you ever get them lasered? Well no, I did, I the guy told me with one of my shoulder. I came in there for four sessions and they were the most excruciating things that, like I've ever intentionally done to myself. And the guy told me he's like, I'm going to be real honest with you. Whoever gave you that tats? That tattoo used way too much ink. Wow. You'll be coming in order to get that even remotely removed, you're going to be looking at probably like 20 more sessions and, and and then he tells me, and at that rate, I can't guarantee that there won't be severe skin damage. Not so not worth it. So I so he was like, just do get it covered up or a cover or something. But that but but that's the thing is like I've been to tattoo artist. Yeah. And if gotten into fights I remember because they do their job. Yeah. And so I am like begging for somebody. But I also don't because like this is going to be like, you know, thousands of dollars to do something over this. So I've just never had that extra kind of cash to be able to do it or on the one on my back. So here they are. Just stay in there. A giant green fucking monster on my goddamn back that wasn't meant to be green and some Godsmack looking. No, I didn't know this. I didn't know that. No. But the the inspiration for my I was 16, by the way. I know you folks can say no, we shouldn't. You we should we? I was 16 because in Canada you can do shit. So, you know, we should do for for this episode. We should. When we do that, our Instagram, you take a picture of your tattoos you got and then I'll take a picture of mine. Yeah. But it took the very last few we. So everyone I I've got this giant green like abstract like I don't even know what you'd call it, but it goes from shoulder to shoulder on my back. And the inspiration for anyone who knows was Randy Orton. So if you've ever seen his back tattoo that goes across his back, that was my idea. So I brought in a design that looks something sort of similar to that. I told the guy I was like, you see that kind of green that he has in his color? That's what I want for mine. It's like a very like, it's that normal had like that dark olive green that like that. You see, that's what I said. I wanted. So four hours room and then the chair can't see shit. The man can't see shit. And and then all of a sudden he's like, he's like, all right, you're done, bro. And he was like this Canadian guy to talk to, like a stoned out Californian. And then I look in the back and he goes, there it is. And I go, why, why is it so? Is that is that going to darken? That's going to darken. Right. And he goes, well bro, I mean it's going to fade over time. But no, that's it man. And I was like, why is it neon green? And he's like, you said green. And I said no, like green. Like how he has it in the picture like the dark green. And he goes, oh, well, when it heals, you could always come back and get it recolored. And I was like, I was 16 and mortified. I was like, I just need to leave right now. And then glutton for Punishment came back to the same place and got this fucking monstrosity on my goddamn fucking shoulder. That's what we call being young folks. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. You go back, they fucked it up the first time. Be like, yeah, I'll go back and I'll strike gold twice. Yeah, I only have, I have different artist. Okay. I have two requisites. But, for being for putting ink on me, I have to look, I have to judge that your stuff is good. That's not hard. It, because I'm just getting scripts usually. And then you have to be cool. You can't be an asshole. You can't be like. You have to be an I. The attitude of some of those artists is like, all right, dude, but come on here. And you just I mean, you know, you have to be cool. My guy was super cool. It dude. Even even the one. My favorite one, though. Our matching one. Do you remember how even that got fucked up? Yeah, they messed it up. They did, they didn't. But that was fixable. You went right back and they literally had to, like, connect a line. So. Yeah. Yeah. Like the matching tattoos and Alex and I have is an arrow. So quote that says quality is not an act. It is a habit. And when we got back I think we were about to watch the Oscars or we're about to watch something indie indie spirit Awards. Yeah, in the Spirit Awards. And I'm looking at like is, you know, we got like the the Saran wrap over it. And I was like, quality is not an ACL. That's right. That is what it looked like. Yeah. And I and you're like what. And I go fuck I forgot to cross the T I go, this is why I've got the worst fucking luck when it comes to these goddamn tattoos. So I guess anyone out there this is a cry for help to any of our mad movie buffs. If you've got anyone out there that you know is a tattoo artist that will be able to help me in my in my awful, awful body are then, greatly appreciated because apparently I got nothing. Reach out, reach out on social I wa I w underscore podcast to give Nick some la based or not. It sounds like it could go just so I can travel at this point. Well, hey, I got a guy for you. He do it. And his bed last night is hell of a guy. All right. That was a lot of fun. I love these lists. So now, if we're. I want to finish the 90s. We have 1990 through 94 to go because we've done all the rest. We've done 95, seven, eight, nine. So now we got the back half. And now once we get into that, we'll be venturing into stuff that I didn't see in theaters, largely that are good. Like I didn't see pulp in theaters. I didn't see Schindler's List in theaters. Can you imagine? Jesus, Jesus Christ? All right, folks, go watch what we recommended the rock scribe Fargo. Great stuff, Romeo and Juliet. But as always, thanks for listening and happy watching. Hey everyone. Thanks again for listening. 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