134: 2024 Summer Movie Reviews

Alex and Nick cover nearly every film genre as they review a bunch of new films and shows including M. Night Shyamalan’s “Trap,” “The Bear Season 3,” “Baby Reindeer,” “A Family Affair”, “MaXXXine,” “Longlegs,” Yorgos Lanthimos’ “Kinds of Kindness,” “Catherine Breillat’s “Last Summer,” Frank Perry’s “The Swimmer” starring Burt Lancaster, and more.
Later, Dan joins Alex to review Kevin Costner’s “Horizon,” and the outrageous new animated comedy, “Hundreds of Beavers.”
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All right. I'll do, like, a solo intro, so we'll just jump right in. All right. Extended. What are you watching? We do 1 or 2 of these a year, just like fall movies. We're checking out if we want to catch up on a lot of the Oscar stuff. Summer movies, that there's stuff going on. So we both been watching stuff. We're going to talk about some TV, talk about some new movies. I've seen, some older movies I've seen in the theater that I've loved. So we're just going to get into it. That's all this is going to be. It's going to be a mini sode, but I might brand it as regular showed a regular, so it might be a regular soda, might be episode 134. Because we work hard at these, we put just as much effort into these as we do with the other ones. So we'll then do the intro. Dog. Hey everyone, welcome to What Are you watching? I'm Alex Withrow and I'm joined by my best man, Nick though, so how are you doing there, baby reindeer? But you just look for the first thing. Baby reindeer. And it's it's. Yo, it's the only name I could think of that quickly put me on the spot. Yeah, we're talking about some fun stuff. How are you feeling to be here? As always, I'm excited to be here. He's excited. He's excited. Okay, this can just be a back and forth. I don't know how many you have because you didn't add them to the fucking outline. So I can't see him so. Well, I yeah, I got some I got some okay. Do you have any TV on there. No. Okay. I'll do I'll do the TV really quick. Some of these are going to be like quick. And if it opens it up for conversation and then we'll do that. We're going to talk a little more at length at the end about two movies, one entitled The Swimmer, which you I have recommended as a what are you watching recommendation. You watched. and then we're going to talk about Yorgos Lanthimos, his new film, Kinds of Kindness, which by the time this is released has probably left theaters for theaters. We all know how this goes. It's going to be on streaming soon. And people will. The the poor thing's debate kicked up big time for me. Again, not the bait, just people asking me about it. When that hit Hulu, so many people that didn't see it in the theater. So we know how this goes. Yeah, man. That's cool. That's cool bro. That's very cool of you. Thanks, dude. I'm the coolest one there is. here's a season of good television, but not great television, because the first season of the of the bear, to me is great television. I loved that first season and my hot take of the show, having seen every episode it's produced and released so far, is that, I think it should have ended after season one, I really do, I think season, the season one season finale is so strong. You got Radiohead, you get the look from Jon Bernthal, and my favorite episode of the whole series is in season two. So it's a weird thing. It's like it definitely grew. It took some new turns. It started doing a lot more standalone episodes where we're just focusing on one character, and I thought that worked well. In season two. The most famous episode of that season fishes. It all takes place in the past, and it's just, you know, big dinner party. My favorite episode was next episode, forks, where we're just focusing on the Richie character the whole time. I really like that, but, well, I first want to say that you watch season one and you were a fan of it. I was I like season one. I didn't see two. You haven't seen season 2 or 3? Yeah, and I'm not going to give away any spoilers here. None at all. But like the first episode is one of the longer episodes of the season, it's about 40 minutes long. And this is you're either going to love this or hate this. And wow, did I really not like this. It is a 40 minute long. Previously on the bare set to music from The Social Network. That's just what it is. There are some stuff of him in his modern day, or rather like a present day kitchen, like thinking of stuff, but it is mostly rehashing of scenes. We have already seen how he's using all of this. So it's this big mosaic and this montage set to Social network music, and I'm going ten minutes in. I went, what the fuck is going on? Here's the whole thing going to be like this. I just said that out loud and I'm like, I don't need this. I watch, I watch this stuff recently, like, I don't need to see these. And if I needed to, I could have caught up on my own. Some people really liked it. It wasn't for me. Episode two all takes place in the kitchen. It's like 22 minutes long. You don't leave the kitchen. It's everyone's sitting around talking really, not many angles. So I see what he's doing there. It's this huge scope thing. And then episode two is smaller in scope. I'm not going to go through every episode, but it a lot of it just felt unnecessary. It really felt like it was stretching. They're saying season four is going to be the end. Maybe season four will be great. Ten episodes, no skips or maybe it will feel like season three, which has 3 or 4 solid episodes, but a lot of them to me have skip episodes. Maybe it's going to feel like that. I don't know, we're basically we're going to see if season three and four was, if that was enough material for one season that he's stretched out for two seasons, or if he's waited and it's saving all the gold content for season four, I don't know. Still good TV. There's still some good stuff in it, but he got a little ridiculous with some of the cameos in season three. I don't know if you want me to spoil them, but, I've heard I've heard a couple and there was one that even I disagreed with because I was like, do one of these John Cena yes, it was ridiculous. It was absolutely ridiculous. He's playing it up and I'm like, has he ever seen this show? What fucking show is he on right now? This is so distracting. This is so dumb. Like cut! Get out of this. His purpose. He's like a floor buffer. It's so stupid. And and then, honestly, I like to show what I'm going to say next. It's not a fault of any of the actors involved. I don't believe whoever is deciding to put this in the comedy category in the Emmys never understood this. It is absolutely and unequivocally category fraud. This is a heavily dramatic show with some humor in each episode. But even if you want to stretch and I might allow you to stretch and call season one a comedy, his performance is not comedy based. He is dealing with the person closest to him having died by suicide. There's heavy trauma. This is not a funny show, and his performance is not comedic. And it just now, as of this recording, it just got nominated for the most comedy Emmys ever. 23. But it's not a fucking comedy show. And all the Emmys you just got nominated for, to be clear, are for season two. The TV category nominating process is very confusing. I know season three just came out, but it just got nominated for season two, which a lot of people think is a better season of television than season one. So I think we're going to see another bear sweep. Maybe. Or maybe people will reject this, but they can't do this for season three. They got to get it out of this category. It's absurd. When I saw that, I went, guys, the most famous episode or the most popular episode of season two is a whole family sitting around screaming at each other the whole time. There's nothing funny about it. Like someone's having a fucking mental breakdown in the kitchen. You guys are throwing forks and spoons at each other of the table. This is so that just kind of pisses me off. But it's really weird to see them all up there. Accepting Emmys for comedy when, like Abbott Elementary. I don't watch that show, but that's a fucking comedy. Like what? Yeah, we know that's a comedy. Modern family is a comedy. Like, it's really, really stupid. And it it knocks out the comedy comedies of those categories. I just don't like that shit. No, I agree, I've wondered that since day one because this, this show has always been in the comedy section for every award. Golden Globes, Emmys like that. It's like like I. Yeah, yeah, I'll I'll give you that first season. I don't know why that I wouldn't even classify that as a comedy, but maybe just because I don't know. But then as it went on, I'm like, you guys are like, that's that's just that's ridiculous. Ridiculous. Yeah. Everyone's talking about baby reindeer on Netflix seven episodes long. It's apparently the star of it is. It's apparently based on a true thing that happened to him. I thought it was okay. Ali and I had fun kind of laughing at it. I didn't. It was a little hard for me to have sympathy for this character. I thought he was doing a lot to, put this on himself and kind of enabling his stalker a little bit. Honestly, more entertaining than the show was the YouTube deep dive we did after. And, by everything we could find most of what's in the show is complete, utter bullshit. Then he just, like, made it up and they found the real person who apparently stalked him, and she's like, none of this happened. Who knows what's real, who knows what's not. But, it'll be interesting if fame comes back to bite him because it shows a hit. It's been nominated for Emmys, and his fame comes back to bite him and they're like, yeah, dude, none of this is real because he's doing press now. Like, please don't go looking for the people in real life who the characters are based on. And I'm like, are you saying that because you just made all this shit up? And at the very beginning of the show, it's like, this is all a true story. It doesn't even say based on a true story. It's like, this is a true story. And you know how I feel about that. So I'm kind of oh, yeah, watching Piers Morgan interview the woman that this is apparently based on that she's like, none of this is real. Like, I never did any of this. Is she lying? I don't know, but it's it's funny. It's all I have a friend. He quite possibly has the worst taste when it comes to TV or movies. It's so bad, that I, I pretty much know whenever he recommends something to not watch it. I have a few people like that. Yeah, and I never say it. I just saw I'm like, okay, scratch, scratch that list. He said that this is the best show he's ever seen when it comes to trauma. Yeah. So people like that need to watch more shows or movies related to trauma. That's my answer. He just hasn't seen enough like that. That's that. That's funny. Yeah. That's okay. So I bring it up. So you just play it off and you're like, oh wow. Wow. Yeah, it sounds like that's what I do. Yeah, yeah. I'll do one more as a listener. Rec a mind on fire. Oh love him. One of our biggest fans. So yeah. Personal, personal DM and ask me if I've ever seen this movie from the year 2000 called Ivan's Ecstasy. Period. That's what it's called. Ivan's ecstasy period. Directed by Bernard Rose. It's an update of a Leo Tolstoy novel set in contemporary Hollywood. Just some shitbag, you know, producer who doesn't have maybe long to live. Danny Houston plays him. Peter Weller, RoboCop himself is a great, like, asshole actor, and this is basically an American Dogma 95 film, which is what Lars von Trier started. So the bare list of bare bones consumer grade photography, which took me a little getting used to because I'm like, oh, this looks like a camera you bought for like $1,000 in the year 2000. So it just like that. No extra lighting, no nothing. But I kind of liked it and it roped me in and I, I was just happened to have just finished a movie. He dmed me and I rented it immediately. And then we were chatting about it for a while. So a really cool like weird indie. If you're into want to check something like that out one from you, you want to throw this one? yeah. I'll throw, I'll throw one. So this is, brand new movie that just came out on Netflix that I watched because I, don't know why, but I'm a sucker for these movies. So I watched the new Zac Efron Nicole Kidman Joey King movie, A Family Affair on Netflix. Wow. And this is about them hooking up, right? Like, or thinking about it. So. So what I've come to find from 2024 is that the theme of older women dating younger men is apparently a thing. Yeah, a marketable thing. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So so I just find it funny that I've seen two movies this year that happened. And the other one that I'm talking about is the idea of you, which was my recommendation to combat twisters. But, but I, I really like the idea of you. I actually think that that movie, I think it's got hits and misses in terms of what it's what it's doing. But if you're just going into that genre, I think it's actually got some some good stuff in there. Interesting thing about a family affair. you got to take this movie for exactly what it is. The idea of you actually takes itself quite seriously. a family affair. I don't know how serious it takes. It, but it has some very real narrative components to to the the truth of the of the people in it. Okay? It keeps it on a very, very surface level. It never really kind of dives deeper, which of course is where I want it to go. But it poses some very real kind of things, which I kind of dug about it. I overall, I hate to say it. I don't think the movie really, hits okay. Where and I have not heard anyone talk about it in that way. I think if you just want something very light and very cute and, you know, serviceable. unfortunately, I don't think the chemistry between Nicole Kidman and Zac Efron, it's just not there. It's a problem. Wow. Where is the chemistry between Anne Hathaway? And I forget the actor's name? Who plays, her? Her boy? Their chemistry is off the chart, like, it's it's it's incendiary. Nicole Kidman and Zac Efron. God, I just don't think that they have it. But it's a very more interesting dynamic between Joey King and Zac Efron. Not in a romantic way, but in a she plays his assistant. And I think there's a much more entertaining, straight up calm. If you took the romance out of this movie and just made it as this douchebag movie star, because that's what Zac Efron plays. He plays like this, like world famous movie star who can't leave his house because he's so famous and Joey King is his assistant. There's actually some pretty, like, fun stuff to to kind of play with there. I think that's where the movie hits and everything else about the movie falls flat. Kathy Bates is awesome. Oh, she's she's in there. Nicole Kidman phoning in, maybe. I it just it doesn't it's a Netflix. I mean, maybe it's a paycheck movie. I don't know, I don't know. So that's that's that's my take on a family affair. Okay. Okay, I like it, I like it. We're covering all the bases here. I'm going to do some, for 20, 24 horror movies. the Watcher's directed by is Shana Shum on. That is M Night Shyamalan's daughter. This movie is terrible. This is the one with Dakota Fanning. This movie is terrible. It feels like a movie made by someone who was raised, who had their dad reading lady in the water to them over and over and over. Terrible. Maybe it's a stretch. I. I went for Dakota Fanning because I like her and I'll watch her, and just about anything, but it was, oh, this is this movie. Okay. It was so easy. So easy to call where it was going. It was just. It wasn't well done, honestly. A Quiet Place day one. Interesting. Directed by Michael Sarnoff, whose previous film was pig, starring Nicolas Cage. Oh, interesting jump there. Lupita Nyong'o goes in this look, if you like these movies, you're going to like this. The most impressive thing about it was the production design. I didn't even I found this out after I saw the movie. The film is set entirely in New York City and it looks like New York City. It looks good, but they actually recreate in New York City's Chinatown in a massive stage in London. And I did not notice at all. It was it just looked really, really good, really effective. Another franchise movie, Maxine, directed by Ty West, starring Mia Goth. Oh, I'm excited to hear what you think about this. Yeah, it had, a Maxine triple feature. I watch Pearl first, so I did it in chronological order. Pearl first, then X, then I went to the theater to see Maxine underwhelmed, it seems. The general temperature. Yeah. I mean, you said it's 80s LA. You're on the outskirts of, like, the porn industry. She's trying to break into, like real. The mainstream film industry just really doesn't go as hard as you think it would, based on watching Pearl and X, and kind of faded out toward the end. By no means bad, but definitely the least effective of the trilogy. Glad I saw it. I'm actually tempted to see it again, because I think Mia Goth really has a handle on that character, and I like watching her in it, but it she's great. No la 80s serial killer porn. I'm going, okay, it's going to be like hardcore, like I'm in and not just didn't you know it was okay. It was okay. Long legs, directed by Oz Perkins. That is the real life son of Anthony Perkins, aka Norman Bates. He's directed a few movies now. I think we. I think we pronounce her name mica. Mica Monroe. Who's in like it follows, which was ten years ago. We've been watching her for a long time. Nicholas Cage, Blair Underwood, good movie, effective tone. Might go and see this again because it was creepy. painful. Easy to predict. Like, I hope I'm not. I'm not saying I got every single thing, but it introduces something and is a little, to me, obvious of where it's going. And I went, I'm talking 15 minutes in. I went, is this going to be blink? Blink and blink? And it just was. And it's not like some sixth sense twist or anything like that. But I'm I'm like, oh, that okay? Kind of felt like a more confident movie than it was like it felt very confidently made. But it wasn't that. It's like it's not is the marketing campaign that's been going on for this movie. Like, I mean, it's crazy brilliant, brilliant campaign. The movie wasn't nearly as disturbing as that would let on. And it does kind of a lot of scary movies have a third act problem where they don't really know where to go or where to land. I'm not saying that was fully this, but I thought it was extremely easy to call like where it was going. Certain aspects of it acting was good, I liked it, it is a good movie. I'm still recommending all these movies. I'm not recommending The Watchers, but I'm recommending, if you like A Quiet Place one and two, you're going to like this day one prequel. If you like Pearl and X, you gotta complete it with Maxine. If you want to watch some scary movies to give you a jump, even on a Friday night at home, you don't necessarily have to go to the theaters. Long legs is going to be fine. Nicolas Cage is not in it that much, which I thought, but yeah, it was good. switching gears big time here, the AMC near me a few weeks ago hosted a singalong screening to the 1999 masterpiece South Park Bigger, longer and Uncut. So I go and I'm there early, and there were a few of them, a few of us in. There's about 20 of us, you know, the first song from my, town, that one. We're like, kind of singing, but, you know, it's so loud in a movie theater, you can't necessarily hear if, like, people are singing. So we're just kind of like going with the flow and everything's fine. And then during Uncle Sucker. Yes. For, Latina women who I think were probably ages 19 to 20 to walk in the theater in a single aisle marching, singing Uncle Sucker loudly, shut your fucking. And they each have a doll, a South Park doll. One has a Cartman, one has a Kyle, one, and they're just like doing it. Oh, I'm so happy. They walk in and my row is completely empty and they sit two seats away for me. And as the one sitting closest to me sits down, I'm looking at them and I'm dying laughing as they walk in. We all are. They. It's like they have rehearsed it, but instead they're just rushing because they're late to the movie. She sits down and perfectly on time, puts her Kyle doll in my face. It goes back, I come back, I got her body bags. I was like, I just thought they'd be oh fuck her. And then looks back at the screen and that was it. And it was just it was an amazing experience. They were so into it. I'm going, who the fuck are you people like you? When did you watch this movie? Was this movie even out when you were born? Like, was it where were you born? Did it was released? I loved it, it was hysterical. man. And then, horizon, an American saga, chapter one. Controversial. Well, not for me. Not for me at all. Very slow, very boring. Joe, my 87 year old father in law. Joe. Not a fan. granted, he was asleep for a lot of it, which, you know, is just the way it goes. But I was not a fan like he. He stayed up for all of killers of the Flower Moon in the theater. Like he can't do that. It's not like he dozes off all the time. But, I mean, talk about hubris, man. Talk about confidence. Like you quit something as insanely lucrative as Yellowstone to make for he's making for these fucking movies. Apparently, three hours long. That's 12 hours. He's shooting them on red cameras. They look like the quality of a Yellowstone episode. The first one. I'm never rooting for a movie to fail, especially when you're putting it on the line. Like this Megalopolis, I see you. I'm going to be there. I'm. Even if that movie's crazier than shit, I still respect the gamble, I respect. Yeah, I respect the gamble. But this is going to be one of the biggest bums like of modern Hollywood history. This movie absolutely fucking tanked. No one showed up for it. I don't know what he's going to do from here. I heard Netflix is pitched him a deal to buy all four movies, so that maybe they get put in theaters for a week or two. I don't know, I think that's the smartest move, just dumb on streaming. Not all at once, but like space him out. But he already pulled chapter two from theaters. It was supposed to be about six weeks after the first. I don't know what it is. My advice is to not watch that in and instead stay home and rent. The only good movie Kevin Costner has ever directed, and is a movie that no one ever talks about. It is called Open Range from 2003. It is a perfect Western. Costner, Duvall, and that. Bening I love that movie. Astounding third act shootout. They shut the whole thing and wide master shots. It's a great movie. His first movie is a movie I'm never going to like. Never liked it dances With Wolves. I think it's so painfully boring. I think the Oscar love for that was absurd. So that's just not for me. The postman is not a good movie. Open range is a really, really good movie. Highly recommend. So a friend of the pod, Dan, the only two people I know who have liked horizon are my dad and friend of the pod, Dan, who somehow likes westerns. I don't that which is great, but he liked it that it's one of the most baffling things to me, that he liked it and I didn't. And I even served up a lot of questions because the movie has a lot of issues and the way it is paced and it's character development, he's just setting it all up like you understand, this is chapter one. There will be three chapters to come. So if something does, it makes sense. Shut up. I'm maybe I'll pay it off years from now in chapter four. A lot of people just aren't into that shit. Not anymore. Yeah, clearly. Clearly. All right. Well, I'm going to I'm going to switch up. I'm going to start because we're talking about movies that are relatively current or ones that we've just seen, not exactly like a classic, but, I watched a movie, Alex, that I don't I think he, you know what I'm about to say, I do. I don't know much about it, but I know, I know where you're going. So, friend of the pod, Dan, which I think that just has to be the way that we referred to. And that's how I always read of the part. That friend of the pod, Dan, we went out one night. We came back and it was probably 11:00 at night. We had pizza and he's like, I'm going to put this movie on and I really don't care what you think about it. I'm we're just going to watch it. I've been wanting to watch it forever. And I go, what is it? And he goes, hundreds of beavers. Yep. And I go, oh my God, I don't even like just just the title right there. And then coming from Dan though, I have to give credit where credit is due with Dan. When it comes to comedies and ridiculous things, generally, we see eye to eye on most things, and if he really, really has a reason to watch something, he's very rarely ever steered me wrong. This did not disappoint. I do not know how to categorize this movie. It is about a fur trapper who, in the opening of this scene, burns down his whole entire village and is now on his own and has to basically survive. And the way that the movie works, I mean, the base, it's a cross between CGI and animation. I don't know how else to really kind of like it's a stylized movie. It's black and white. It's silent. Yeah, I heard that. It's very, very Charlie Chaplin like but but not grounded in the reality that Charlie Chaplin does. But in terms of like the, the style of the physics of it are Charlie Chaplin like, and it also kind of plays a little bit like a video game in a lot of ways. Like it's a, it's a very unique. I've never seen anything like it. And when I tell you that I laughed harder than I've laughed in a very long time, I can't remember. I was crying like tears were streaming down my face, couldn't catch my breath because of how hard I was laughing. And Dan, I'd never heard the noises that were coming out of him. I thought I heard Dan laugh the hardest I've ever heard Dan laugh. When we rewatched Home Alone two and Daniel Stern is going through all of his comedy, it's yeah, there's scream. The high pitched Dan. Dan and Dan lost his mind. I've never heard anything like it. So. And and, it was one of the best movie watching experiences I've had in a long, long time. I all I can say, I don't know how anyone else is going to receive that. It's it's great though. I will watch it because you he's been trying to get me to watch it for a while since it became a thing. So I'm gonna I will I'm going to dedicate some time to sit down and watch it. I need to be in the right state of mind. Which is code. Yeah, not thinly veiled code. So yeah, I can't do it. Like during was or anything. I'll do it at night in the right state of mind. Yes, a certain maybe libation or is certain. Maybe a little, a little a little something. Something might be with the doctor ordered for this. And I'm not saying that like you need it, but I'm certainly sir. It will help enhance the experience at any time. It's a good time. okay, so I do my last one as I tease it in my. In the Twister Twisters episode. I tease in the twisters episode, it's called last Summer. It's released in 2023. It was actually playing all over Paris when I was there, but I just I didn't want to. I had too much going on, so I saw I decided to do the old movies instead. So this is directed by this director, Catherine Briley. I'm sure I'm pronouncing that wrong. She is, by some, considered to be a female Gaspar. In a way, she's a French director, makes very tough films. Her movie romance actually features real, simulated sex scenes, not unlike love from Gas and Away Fat girl is one of the best, most honest, most difficult to watch coming of age movies ever made. Highly recommend that with reservations, the movie features a few sex scenes between two characters who, in real life could not fucking stand each other. So, Brie ladies, next movie is called Sex Is Comedy. It's a film about a female director trying to direct two actors in a sex scene, despite the fact that they fucking hate each other. So this is who you know. We're dealing with the actress, in fact, girl replies, reprises her role and is now like, kind of playing herself in sexist comedy, which is really interesting. Anatomy of hell. if you thought Lars von Trier broke the mold with nymphomaniac, go back to anatomy of a hell, anatomy of hell if you dare. Oh Jesus Christ, abuse of weakness is star Isabella Huber. It was based on the. This director, Catherine, had a stroke and then, got screwed out of most of her money by a con man. So she makes a movie about a director who has a stroke and get screwed out of most of her money by a con man. So she she she really she really goes for the abstract and fiction of things. That was a joke. Okay. Yeah. Things that are like, based on her. She doesn't. It's not venture out. She likes that. Yeah, she likes realism. So last summer, here's a logline. Are you ready? It is a remake of a Dutch film, to be fair, but a 50 year old woman who's a prominent sexual harassment lawyer begins having a sexual affair with her 17 year old stepson. Yes. Can you fathom this being considered in America in 2024? Like, I went to the movie theater to see this, and it was mostly older people in the theater. We all enjoyed it because it's a really, really well made movie. I'm not saying it's going to be my favorite movie of the year, and even though it is, you know, a European 2023, I'm counting it as 2024. But it's just so odd to me. This kind of goes back to twisters, how contemporary American cinema completely ignores a major part of humanity. Sex and the French are like, fuck you, here we go. You think this doesn't happen? I mean, we every week I feel like I opened my news app and I see yet another young teacher in Florida who's been fornicate with her underage student in his car. Like, this stuff happens and the French are like, here you go, and we're going to show you the consequences of it. So get ready. Really good movie. But she makes. Yeah. Not an abstract movie, so I'll put it that way. It was a really, really good movie last summer. All right. To left and we'll go quickly. I recommended The Swimmer. Yes. Frank Perry movie released in 1968 starring Burt Lancaster. Burt Lancaster said for the rest of his life that this was the best movie and the best performance. It was the best movie. He was in and his favorite movie that he was in, and his favorite character. That's what he always, always said. It's a short story based on a short story by John Cheever, a short story which you both now read. And I love this movie. I actually had a double feature of seeing The Swimmer first and then last summer. So that was it was an interesting day. Oh, what a marvel. That's crazy. This on the big screen. I loved seeing it on the big screen. It was so fun. For those who need to be reminded, it's just about a guy one day who realizes for no reason that shared with us that he decides to create a river of sorts and swim home. His home is about eight miles away, and he's going to use every neighbor's pool to swim home. So he goes in a pool. Then he runs to the other neighbor's pool, and then he runs and he's on a path back to his house. But, you know, these neighbors don't know he's coming. Some neighbors are just lounging by the pool naked because that's what they do. Clearly, some neighbors are having a party that he very deliberately was not invited to. Some neighbors, maybe are people a woman he's had an affair with? And that clearly didn't end well. And as the movie goes on, you're just like, we are thinking exactly what a lot of the side characters in the film are thinking, which is what the fuck is up with this guy? The hell's going on here? What is he doing? Yeah. Great movie, I love it. I just remember you recommend it, and I just remember I was like, I was like, I don't know, like, that's such a preposterous idea. Very 60s. Yeah. Like like it was just such a strange thing. And I remember I was on the Criterion Channel and I was just searching for movies, and I was like, it was like 10 a.m., and I was like, which is I honestly, Greta Gerwig said this and I think I agree with her,

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00 Am is the perfect time to watch a movie. I love ten M movies. I'll start as early. I'll start early as shit, man. Oh yeah, you'll start. You'll start at six, put this thing on, and then was immediately like, I think with the power of this movie will do is what the story is, is such a strange thing. But there's a there's a magnetism behind it because of Burt Lancaster. Oh, like, you can't really pinpoint what it is about him and about his personality and what he's kind of expressing. But you're you're drawn to it. And then as you kind of find, as you start questioning what is really going on here as the movie progressed, because at first you're just you're kind of like, enamored. Yeah. It's like it's this very, very like romanticized fantasy of youth and and everyone loves him like he is the embodiment of of what he thinks he is. As the movie goes, which is what actually I think is a testament to the movie over the short story. Short story is a great, a great thing. But the movie kind of a long waits this big time. The short story is 5000 words. That's no, I was stunned. I opened it and went, oh, I read it very quickly. And what was crazy is that as the movie was going on, as I start to lose a little bit of faith in my initial impression of this guy, I start to kind of crumble with with him too, because I don't like maybe what I'm starting to become faced with, with, with him. Because I don't want to think of myself like this. Not that I do, but I suppose it would be like like I think the fear of anyone in a way where it's like, yeah, you've I don't even know what his deal is like. I don't know if it's mental illness. I don't know if it's a complete just refusal and denial to face reality. I don't know what it is, but this is what the movie kind of poses. And then we finally get to this last scene with this former lover of his love. Oh, man, what a, unbelievably great scene. Just like, so good. Yeah, she's so good. And what they're talking about and what he's not putting together that she's spelling out, is actually a really testament to great screenwriting, because you're still not sure what this guy is and what he's about and what's been going on with him, but she starts putting together pieces through the history of their time together, which correlates to the history of his life that we've kind of started to piece together along this, this Lucinda River that he goes on. Yep. And when you start putting it all together, the reality really is very depressing. And, and then you get to the end and I don't even want to say the end, but at the end, we want. I know that's what you said, I loved it. I was like, I, I'm like, I absolutely in a great way. In a great way. I was like, absolutely not. Like I was like, fuck this movie. Fuck you. I do not I do not want to face this type of reality for him. And I just oh my God, it just it got me, man. It got me. It's, it's a crazy little piece of business. Oh, it's so good. And I'm so glad you watched it and liked it. Really recommend that for people. I just, I saw it in the theater, which was great, and then just bought the Blu ray. so there's a 2.5 hour, like, documentary about it on it. The movie's only an hour and 35 minutes and it, you know, it's like it just like an afternoon, really. So it goes really quick. Yeah. Cool. or just a lot of crazy stuff behind the scenes. Like, Sam Spiegel was the producer. He had already won Oscars for Best Picture, Oscars for On the Waterfront, The Bridge on the River Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia. Not a bad resume. I don't know what the hell happened during the making of The Swimmer, but in post-production, he fired the director, Frank Perry. They had to go do some pick ups and some insert shot. So a very young Sydney Pollack was hired to film all those. So I think Sydney Pollack actually did a little more of the movie than we may think, but I just thought that was interesting. That's very cool kinds of kindness, new Yorgos Lanthimos movie starring Emma Stone. They just had a movie. They just did four things, which went on in many ways, and won Best Actress, among other things, maybe wave that movie fucking. It crushed the Oscars in a lot of. Yes. It was, for one for. So it did. Yeah. It was a good showing. Yeah. Kinds of kindness. If we're if someone's going to ask me, did you like it? This is more of my your ghost bag. For me personally, if you have not seen or you have seen and do not appreciate Dogtooth, I can not imagine you're going to find much value in kinds of kindness. I found it to be the English language Dogtooth in tone, style? Yeah. Structure, pacing. There are two sides of this guy's filmmaking the Greek side and the English side. The weird Greek films are Dogtooth, Alps, The Lobster, The Killing of Sacred Deer, and Kinds of Kindness. All those films are written by Yorgos and Forgive me, infamous Philip, who? I have no idea. I'm sorry. Sorry. He's a Greek man, I don't know. And then the British films are like the British comedies. They're the favorite. And poor things. They have their very own distinct style, fisheye lenses and so on. I don't know enough about Greek culture and society to know if this is true, but based on these films, Greeks are obsessed with control and the futility of that control. I see this in dogtooth, Alps lobster, sacred deer, and kinds of kindness. How dogtooth is about controlling children doesn't work out. Alps is about controlling grief doesn't work out. Lobster controlling who we love doesn't work. Yeah, sacred deer controlling who lives doesn't work out kinds of kindness is three separate stories, making it a longer movie, but it's three stories linked with the same principal actors. They're not playing the same characters, but it's the same principle. Actors and linked with this narrative insistence on control. And there are different levels of control in the film that don't work out to one degree or another. I absolutely did not get all of this movie. I've gone back twice. I saw the day it came out, and then I saw it on America's birthday, July 4th, great July 4th movie. And here, because my dad loved poor things. He's a big Yorgos fan. He's had a whole like, kind of about face about him. He did not get this, and he did not really enjoy it because he didn't get it. And I when we talked about it, I went, I'm not I'm not here to even sell you on it. I just gave him my whole control. Yorgos Greek control speech, which he found, I think he found some value in. But it doesn't it still doesn't mean it's going to make this movie click into place for you. This is not something with these three stories. Don't have like the bow on it that say poor thing starts and then it has a perfect bow on it. And for all those reasons, I really, really liked it. It's a tough film. It's a sparse Greek theme film, but I, I really liked it. And yes, but I want to hear your thoughts too. No, I feel the exact same way. I really, really liked it. I mean, I but I like that, Yorgos, I think, granted, I still think Poor Things is my favorite. Your last movie, I listen, I really listened and yeah, that was your number one. Yep, yep, that's like a very digestible movie in a lot of ways. For him. Yes. For him. For him. Yeah. If you're talking about his style. So this is where like really like I think the lobster is more digestible than this one is. This is much to me more like Dogtooth. And I never saw the Alps, but like, killing of a sacred Deer because that was a movie that nobody like. Very few people I've ever talked to have either seen killing of a Sacred deer or were like that movie rocks. Yeah. So like, I feel like I feel like and personally, I think sacred deer rocks, that's still my number two of his. Yeah. The so this one lives there. I have a hard time for going so hard in the pain with it, because I'm having a hard time figuring out the third story. Yeah, that to me, displayed the futility of control, so. Well, we won't go into spoilers, but the way that that ended, I went. Oh, so this was like, in some ways all for nothing. And that's just, okay, okay, here we are. Yeah, it was the hardest one to grasp on to, for sure. I saw this the first one twice. Yeah, because you had to leave. Yeah. You had an emergency. Yeah, but but honestly, after seeing that scene twice, I'm convinced. Like that's, that's a masterpiece of, overall, just if you want to take a short story from everything about the way that that's presented and done, I think that's just an absolute masterpiece of of filmmaking and sound like a very short story level. Yeah. I mean, it's they're 50 minutes long, five zero. So you're with them for a long time. But yeah, that one was really good. You know, Willem Dafoe is like kind of running some stuff behind the scenes. It's a lot of control stuff. But yeah, it's Willem Dafoe. It's instinctual. Yeah. Jesse Plemons, Margaret Qualley, Uncle Joel, and they're the ones showing up a lot. Mamadou a taffy I want to say his name, too. Like, I thought he was a really good kind of grounding force in a lot of them. Yeah, I agree it might. The first one was my favorite as well. I thought it was pretty fucking perfect. Yeah, I think there's a trick for, like, you have to let go of the norms of society in a lot of ways to kind of grasp what Yorgos is kind of going for. Yes. Because and I think what I like about Yorgos is that just to kind of get reminded that it's okay to let go of those because he doesn't, like, lose complete grasp control on reality. But what we tether ourselves to, especially in American society, Yorgos, just sort of presents an alternative existence where those norms just don't exist. This is very important to bring up. Yeah. So there's to me like this all of a sudden, freedom into watching a Yorgos movie like this because you're like, oh, I don't need to think about a certain sentimentality that maybe right or wrong has kind of made me have to feel like I do. So I always feel very refreshed. Like even from the start of this movie, I was sort of like, oh, this is cool. Like, I can just like because you're still like there are still element. It's like life and death, you know, love is still there. Like like there are there are certain constants that are here, but there's other ones that just aren't. Yeah. And it's kind of cool to let those goes because then when you see these characters behave the way they do when you're like, oh, this is what matters. This is this, this is actually what matters to you. it's it's just it's fascinating to kind of put yourself in, in a headspace that this is what actually matters. And so like the second one is actually a better example of, of that, of that I think because like, yeah, that was the one my dad had the hardest time with and kind of what you're saying is like, I love that one. Yeah, I did too. There are like alternate some like an alternate version of reality. But you take the lobster for example, like in real life, if we fail to find love, we don't turn into animals. That's not a thing. Yes, killing of a sacred deal. In real life, if we kill someone by performing surgery on them, we then don't have to kill a member of our family to balance out the world that these aren't. These are things that they're putting into it. And kinds of kindness has this. It's not you know, they're they're breathing oxygen. But I don't think this is meant to be taken hyper literally. I think if you're going to do that, you're going to have some issues with it. Yes. You cannot take it literally. You have to kind of just take it as, oh, this is what matters to them. Yeah, that, that and that's a very, very separated notion from the way that we kind of interpret our storytelling or even just you can kind of like find a way where you understand how they operate within that disconnect. I think you'll find the value in Yorgos movies, but if you can't, I don't blame you if that's not for you, because I'm like, no, that's a hard sell. Like Yorgos, movies are a hard sell. they are. They go beyond just being quirky and and like indie in that way. They there are a little bit more of like, acquired taste. Yeah. Like if the most accessible movie in your filmography is either the favorite or poor thing. Poor thing. You are an acquired taste because poor things of. Yes, a lot, of lot of people are like, what the hell is that? So, but I will say, if I was ranking them, Dogtooth is still number one. Sacred deer is number two kinds of Kindness is my third favorite Yorgos film. I know when this thing is released, I will. I'll buy it. But even like with Poor Things on Hulu, I saw it twice in the theater. I even had a need or desire to go back and rewatch that on Hulu. The second Kinds of Kindness is available. I'm going to rewatch it, and I've already seen it twice in the theater. It's just. Yeah. Yes, you're absolutely right. Acquired taste, all that stuff. And if these movies are not for you, I get it. But it's just so my bag, I loved it. I love that Jesse Plemons one best Actor con. It's, like hilarious to me. He's so good. It they are. They all are. They all are. But I think he really shines. Yeah I agree he's not very prevalent in the third story. but if you look at the work he does in the first two stories, I mean, it's, it's it's a, it's amazing work. And I think he fits really well into Yorgos his, vision of things. Yeah. Keep make more movies. I don't care that Emma Stone was just in one of his movies and just won an Oscar, and now she's in one, like, six months later. Make one another six months. Really, I don't care. Like, we don't get artists like this. So I'm so happy that he seems to be on a good path of like, churning out more movies. And it isn't going to make us wait, you know, like six years between movies or stuff, like keep putting them out. I will not complain. Yeah, I did not understand all of it, but I appreciated all of it. Exactly. Yeah. And I'm okay with a lot of not understanding too. Yeah, yeah. All right. That was fun. I got to see this fucking Beaver movie, dude. You got to see it. You got to see I don't I honestly, Dan kept asking me, he goes, do you think Alex is going to like this? And I go, I don't know. I I'll give it a fair shot because of the animation aspect of it, cause I know how you feel about that. That could that could be a, a con for it if you just kind of just take it for what it is and what it's doing, I don't know, I, I'm very curious to hear what you think. I'll open my mind literally and have some fun. I'll report back. Yeah. I mean, it's it's fun. Like, it's a, it's an interesting way to watch a movie because it does for for all of its ridiculousness, it does present a way of watching movies that you don't think about anymore, like that silent movie aspect of it. Yeah. Like the way that you put together, what he's trying to do is pretty cool. Like, you like at first because Dan lost it at one point he goes, I don't know what he's doing anymore. And I was a little bit more present. We'll put it that way, that he was, the and I go, I know what he's doing. He like in order to. Yeah. Okay. So there isn't like a cool tracking. Okay. You have to do with the movie that that when you kind of realize as it's happening what he's doing, it's like constant light bulbs are going off. And that gives you a very kind of like serotonin, like, oh, wow, okay, that's stupid, but I get it. I will watch it, I'll watch it and report back. And yeah, you can go watch horizon and, I'm all right. We'll have friend of the pod. Dana, let's talk about that. All right. Ready? I think so. You'd think so. All right. Dance here to talk a few movies. That one of which we. We mentioned that Nick reviewed hundreds of beavers, which I have now seen. But I want you to tell me your thoughts on it. How did you even hear about this? Like, how did you find this movie? I, I feel like it was it was a Reddit post. And then I saw the trailer and I just said, oh, I'm going to love this movie. And then, and then I'm done. My next thought was, I'm going to make Nick watch this movie with me. And then that's what happened. And then I didn't wash it first. My buddy watched it first and said it was phenomenal. And he said I was in for a treat. And then I think, yeah, then, then Nick. Then we went out one night and he came back, and then I put it on and it was like, Nick, myself and my girlfriend. Sorry listeners, I'm taken. yeah. And then apparently my girlfriend has passed out to Nick and I. Kathleen, I told Nick, I'm like, I'll give you ten minutes, and if you're into it, we'll keep watching it. And then Nick's I think. Nick, Nick Nick I haven't I don't Nick's recording, but Nick told me multiple times he's like there are noises coming out of you, Dan, that I've never heard. He actually said that. He said that on on the pod. He did. He said, he never thought he would hear those noises after watching Home Alone two with you. But then he said he heard it for this. Oh my gosh, I don't know. I don't know if it was like the perfect mixture of, like, a night out and like me being slightly not sober and just like a nice, like, chill, yeah, you know, vibe. But it was in that moment in time and I can still say it because of the circumstances. It is the funniest movie I have ever seen. Oh my God, what a compliment. Holy shit. It was just I, I don't I was laughing at an a pitch I never knew I could create. It just it was it was incredible. Absolutely. What a moment. And you liked it? I did, I did, and I you know what you and I talked about and even Nick and I talked about like, I'm going to go in in the right state of mind, which I certainly did. yeah. You know, and so that helped, I'm sure. But yeah, I like it's just ridiculous. Like, it's absolutely. What is he the. He's like an apple jack salesman or something I and then he like and then he's like, I don't want I want to spoil it. But yeah like I don't know if it's real or a dream, but are you told there's like, Birdman stuff and and which I didn't know. There's. Okay. So I, I liked it because like, he there's some musical score that sounds a lot like the psycho theme. There were some things that were reminiscent of the Virgin Spring by Birdman. Not like if listeners have seen that movie, not the darkest aspects of it, not at all. But there was just some relationships at the time. I mean, I could tell watching. I'm like, this guy knows movies like it's directed by Mike Chesley. Like, I guess it's how you say, yeah, he I mean, I didn't think it was. It was an hour 45. It's like an hour 45 of silent movie slapstick. Yeah. And I will say, I don't know if you remember this, but I would say maybe the last I think the last half hour for me, it's slowed down in me laughing my ass off and became more plot heavy. I think that's yeah, I agree, not all plot heavy, but like by the end, by the last third, the the main character is like finally going on to succeed in his goal. Yeah, yeah. So there's a lot of just like door going around and which I started, I got what he was doing. Like there's a lot of repetition in it, which was very reminiscent of even like the Marx Brothers and I got, I got what he was doing. But yeah, it's like it's black and white, no dialog 150,000. It's how much he made it for Will Nick it talked about that. It was like a hybrid of live action animation and CGI and his right leg green screen. Yeah, yeah. There was like a lot of you can tell he made it, you know, even like the on the edge of the frame, it was always very like distorted and stuff. But I like the look. I just kind of fell into it. But yeah, I definitely laughed out loud multiple times at just how silly it was. And I love that. It's, you know, it is like a thing. I've done some research on it, like online, you know, that people are seeing it. It's good for him. People online are loving it. I yeah, yeah, you'd have to know what you're getting yourself into. You can watch that trailer and go, oh, okay, I know exactly what this is going to be. But yeah, good for I definitely think in in a certain state of mind on a, you know, Friday night or sad or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fun stuff. I mean of course, what a recommendation from you. And, Nick said it was, he texted me that it was he thinks the funniest movie has ever seen. And then I think I think he said that in this episode. We recorded that, like, a few days ago, but, yeah, that he's ever seen. Yeah. He spoke very highly of. It's one of the funniest ones he's ever seen. I don't know, but I mean, as of right now, I mean, it was like the perfect storm of, of moment for me. Like the perfect moment of everything. Kind of just like lined up in the universe for me and just happened to be the funniest movie I've ever seen as of right now. Yeah, yeah, in a recent memory, I have no complaints about it. No notes, no, no, no, it was hysterical. It was great. I'm sure I'll watch it again. I'm. Someone needs some streamer. Needs to pick it up, I watch. I had to rent it on YouTube, which is fine. Oh, really? Yeah. Or Apple. I don't even know one of the, you know, renters, but someone free should pick it up. They make a lot of money. Or I mean, they get a lot of views because it's it's that right ingredient of weird that a certain amount of people like and others will just kind of check out to see what the fuss is about. But it was out there. All right, moving on. This is such a random order. We're going to move on to something way more serious. Thank you for the hundreds of beavers rec. You're welcome. And then you recommended this one to me, too. So the dead don't hurt a brand new. I mean, on IMDb, it says it was released in 2023, but I count this stuff as 2024. Brand new Western, written and directed by Viggo Mortensen. He's also the star of it. I also learned that he did the music for it. He did Jesus. It was good music. really good. This is a, you know, a Western that was in a few theaters near me just for like a week or two. Nothing crazy. But then you said you were going to watch it. That motivated me to watch it. And I like this a lot. So did you. What did you think of it, though? You know me. I love a good Western. I yeah, personally feel like it to me. If I like the mind of most unconventional Western I've seen in a while, just because of the way it was paced and like the way it did go with time. Yeah, it cross cuts a story, which is not. Yeah, not very common for a traditional Western, but the story element of it is very traditional. The, you know, it's like a woman in this case. Vicky Krieps, Vicky Krieps from Phantom Thread, who you know, I love, and they meet in a town and it's set in Nevada. They shot it in Canada and then a little in Mexico, but they meet there and then, you know, fall in love. And he the Civil War starts and he decides to go fight for on the, for the Union in the Civil War. And she stays home and things don't necessarily go too well for her, but she's an absolute fighter. And it's not, you know, in all the areas it could have gone too far. It didn't. It was restrained. But yeah, but then it's cross-cutting. a more present day story. Yeah. Yeah, I feel it feels like more her story too. I agree, I agree a lot of it. And just the way it just took its time, like you could have cut you could have cut so much out of that movie. But Viggo just wanted it to breathe. It's true. I personally think, like, there are, like, really long shots that don't need to be there. Yeah, yeah, it's like it's two hours and nine minutes. So there, there were definitely. Breathe is a good word because it's slow. But you could tell he was doing that on purpose. But there was I mean I thought the cinematography was one of the best aspects of it. And I even sent you some stills that I thought were just gorgeous. Just long stills of him, like on a horse sail out either. No, no, he's playing a Dutch guy and he didn't. It's not a performance based on dialog at all. She speaks a lot. The supporting cast is great. Danny Houston was great. Garret Dillahunt I love that guy. Was that the was that the oh yeah. Oh oh yeah he oh he was also in Deadwood. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. He's a dead guy. No no no. The main bad guy. I don't know that dude's name. he looked like a more attractive Seth Rogen. Only it's not like he looks like Scrooges must, Sally McLeod. Sally McLeod. All right. That's his name, right? Yeah. So, British guy. I have not seen anything he's been in, but he's in stuff, right? He's been in two episodes of House of the Dragon. So that's, you know, well known. But yeah, he was good. He he was a good, you know, villain. Very effectively creepy. It was just a good western. So you know, we're going to have a little bit of everything in this episode. It's an absolute mixed bag because we've talked about damn near every genre, animated genre. So now Western. So that's cool. I don't I'm not asking you to justify anything. I just want to know what you liked about Horizon Judgment Free Zone right here, because I did mention Nick and I did mention that you are. You and my dad are the only ones I know who have, like. And. Hey, fair enough, I don't. It wasn't it felt like. I'll say this before I watched horizon, I was lucky enough to stumble upon the TV mini mini series Lonesome Dove. yeah. which is an old western with Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones. It's wonderful. I fell in love with that four part mini series. I guess horizon felt like that to me. I think if I hadn't seen had I hadn't seen Lonesome Dove, I don't think I would have been as appreciative of horizon. But horizon felt like a TV movie. The I would say some of the acting isn't great. I don't know why Luke Wilson is in it. it's just Luke Wilson doing like Luke Wilson, like, what are you doing exactly? I'm saying that's him. Like he's in the movie. I'm like, I don't understand. I don't know what it was, I liked it. I just like the pacing. I just love being in, like, a wild West world. I, probably never see it again by any means, but I enjoyed my three hours of time in that theater. I mean, that's all you can ask for, I don't know. Yeah, I had a good time. I do wonder what he'll do with the subsequent three. Like if he'll finish, if it'll do is not going to get made then. Right. Well that that's what I mean. Like will he just go ahead and do it like I don't know if it's budgeted to be made. I don't know if I don't know. But two is done. Obviously it's in the can. He he's got to be in post I believe on three or he's still filming three, but then four has not been touched as far as I know, unless they were filming three and four at the same time, which he might be doing. Yeah, I don't know. That's Jesus. Well, yeah, just your eyes. Maybe I was a little too hard on it. Definitely. The lonesome dog thing is, you don't. You don't need to watch it. Yeah. I mean no, no. Yeah. But, whenever it is available to stream, whenever it drops on, I don't know if it's going to be paramount since he quit Yellowstone, but whatever. It's on there, there's a whole lot of, you know, older people. This is what he's banking on. This, what he's relying on, who will check it out? I don't know, some people. Yeah. I don't know how that translates to him. For dollars. I don't I don't know that. But a lot more people will see it, you know, in the subsequent weeks or months. So we'll see. But all right because it's already on streaming, you can like, rent it for money, right? Yeah. Yeah, you can rent it. But if I don't know if Netflix had it like a week from now, I bet a lot more people would talk about it and use a good, name drop for low Lonesome Dove. I definitely still need to watch that. I saved some I could. Yeah, that's what you said. I've heard such good things about it. All right, I can't recommend it enough. Okay, cool. Well, then that would be your what are you watching recommendation. It's not. It's not actually. Oh, you have another one. I had another one. Oh wow. Okay. What a surprise. No, I didn't tell you like why you knew I was going to watch it, but I hadn't watched it. I hadn't mentioned to you that I watched it. Okay. Point blank. Oh, you saw it. You watched it. Oh, it was awesome. Oh, man, I fucking love that movie. Yes, this is John Boorman's Point Blank, 19 oh 67. Yeah, I want to look it up. His first movie. Oh, yeah. Not a movie I would expect to come out of 67. Like it's. It seems more artsy to come out now. Yeah, yeah. Like the editing pattern in the beginning. You're like, what? And the sound design. You're like, what the fuck? You don't know what's going on. Exactly, exactly. Oh my God, I love that movie. And like, that's I actually had nuts at first time. I saw that it was like 2017. And I found out that I watched it on, I don't know, one of the apps like Prime or something. And then I found out that Steven Soderbergh did a commentary with John Boorman on the Blu ray. So I bought that, and I'm looking at it. Makes me want to watch it again. Yeah, and Soderbergh is so such like a nerd for the technical aspects. So there's so much like my all my cinematographer buddies love that, because that was the first movie to shoot in this anamorphic, 40 millimeter. Yeah, this anamorphic 4 to 40 millimeter lens. So the whole thing just looks whitish. Shit. And the lens flares are crazy. The colors are so nuts, like, things are just green and orange and yellow. Oh, dude, that's awesome that you watch it. What was it all to be good? What? What did you watch? Oh, you fucking love to be, man. Everything is not to be. yeah, it was good. It was just. I didn't know what to expect. Lee Marvin character is insane. totally insane. You might. $93,000. Yeah. His whole objective is about acquiring this $93,000 and he is owed. Yeah. That's it. It's just a principle of the thing. It's really good. Yeah. Have you seen payback with Mel Gibson? No, but yeah. Research of of, point blank. I saw that payback is point blank. Correct. It is. Yeah. It's it's a remake. I mean, an inferior one. But yeah, there's a lot that there's a lot in point blank that people have stolen. Some people have given it credit, some people have not. But yeah, it's a very influential movie. It's awesome I believe it. No, it's, and John Boorman's, you know, he's known to make crazy movies. Yeah. Deliverance is one of my all time. Yes. Yeah. It's good. Good call. Wow. You surprised me with that. I like it very good, very good. All right, well, that'll be it. Well, goodbye, sir. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming on. We appreciate it. All of us do. Yeah. Yeah. Always fun to sneak Dan into an episode. Hundreds of beavers. Good luck to everyone braving that. All right, a few a few points of clarification. Long legs is a little better than I suggested. I did go and see it again. I was much more forgiving of it the second time because I wasn't trying to guess where it was going. I was just accepting the world. And it's cool. It's freaky. It's a total hit to it is an absolute summer hit, I love that, so definitely catch that. Probably at this point on streaming soon enough. All right, one more for me and then we'll get out of here. Trap, directed by M Night Shyamalan. Sold this weekend. This is a movie starring Josh Hartnett as maybe a serial killer who takes his daughter to a a concert that looks like the eras tour, a Taylor Swift type concert. Except the pop star in this film is actually played by Shyamalan's own daughter. I liked her, I liked Hartnett. This movie is ludicrous. It's defies logic, it's absurd, and I had a blast. You know, if you've seen the preview, maybe, like me, you're a little confused. Like, is this really all the movie is? The movie's only 105 minutes long, but is it just this guy stuck here, like, okay, it's not I'm not going to do any spoilers, but it's not. It's a little more than that, which I appreciated. And then, moreover, if you've seen this trailer, you're like, how does this guy selling t shirts know everything about what's going on? Like everything. And that is part of the M Night Shyamalan silliness that you have to forgive. It's like, because that scene is in the movie, this dude just like, knows everything. They give it a little bit of context a little bit. But what I mean by like defying logic, it's, you know, you really have to give in and just have a good time. I heard Shyamalan say that he really wanted this to feel like a 90s thriller, and for whatever reason, I was watching Sudden Death. Peter Haim's son death with Jean-Claude Van Damme, probably my favorite Van Damme. I was watching that a few weeks ago, and that movie's absurd, but it's a lot of fun. So kind of go into it with that if you want to see it, you know? I know M Night Shyamalan, the guy who kind of tricked us with this forehead of Sixth Sense, unbreakable, by far my favorite film from him. I love Unbreakable Signs in the village. He makes those all within five years and they all have like similar eerie vibe. Like is the new Hitchcock is a new Hitchcock coming. Rod Serling. And then he just turned and he pivoted really hard. Lady in the water, The Happening, Last Airbender, After Earth. Those are not good movies to me. The visit I kind of liked, I thought that actually had a really good, unique perspective on the found footage movie, and it did for me. Split and glass. Oh man. God, I love unbreakable. I, I don't know why the hell I do this to myself. I decided to rewatch glass because I had only seen it once in the theater in 2019, when it came out, so I rented that like for money and watched it before. Trap. I don't like that movie. I really, really want to like it, but it's just long and slow and drags and drags. I think the end is very unsatisfying. A bummer split really wasn't for me either. Old yeah, big concept it. He's going for that twist thing too. And I really didn't think that landed knock at the cabin. Another one I saw was just Little Man about. I did not like the ending, especially when I found out that the ending differed from the book. Just sounds so much cooler in the book. So I guess thinking about it. Trap is probably my favorite channel on film since the visit. I did think the visit was, you know, kind of cool of those like big four, he made up top. I played the Village at four signs at three six, sent it to an unbreakable at one. I think unbreakable is the best movie he's made. I recently heard him again in the same interview say unbreakable was unlike anything he had ever made, because there's he they didn't do coverage for it. It was all just these long master shots. And he said to his knowledge that there is only 400 cuts in the movie that's editing cuts. That is insane. Most action scenes in most movies have way more than 400 cuts. Just in a ten minute action scene. What's the what is it taken? Is it taken three where it's like 18 cuts of him jumping over a fence because I tried to hide all these stuntmen. So it'll be fun to go back and watch unbreakable, like with that lens. So that's it. There was something in this episode for everyone, every genre. I think we hit most everything. Let us know what you're watching. I want to know what you're watching at W underscore podcast on Twitter X Instagram, Letterboxd. But as always, thanks for listening and happy watching. Hey everyone, thanks again for listening. You can watch my films and read my movie blog at Alex withrow.com Nicholas Dose Dotcom is where you can find all of Nick's film work. Send us mailbag questions at What Are You Watching podcast at gmail.com or find us on Twitter, Instagram and Letterboxd at one two underscore podcast next time. I've been waiting for this one for five years where I finally have a chance to fully explain my love for Trey Edward Schultz's waves. Stay tuned. For. Me. I got my back. 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