87: There Will Be Blood (2007) Commentary

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Hey, everyone. Welcome to. What are you watching? I'm Alex. We're thrilled. I'm joined by my son and my partner. How you doing there, H.W.? Plain view. I'm excited to be here. Oh, very good. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good. It was. It was almost as good as yours. It. Although it was good, I was saying. Oh, no, like mine is not that good. I think arts is about equal. Oh, don't be modest. Yours is top notch. Well, I practice all the time by myself. Just have nothing better to do. There will be blood. We have given this movie a lot of hard time here on what are you watching? We did a full Daniel Day-Lewis profile way back when, and we did a full Paul Thomas Anderson director breakdown back in episode 46. There. And yet still, we thought we had more than enough see about this movie to warrant a full commentary. And I think we did. We both really like this one, obviously. But wasn't this just so much fun to do? Yeah, we've circled back to this movie many times on the pod. Yeah. And, you know, it's that good. I've always felt that this movie is worthy of being a top ten or of all time. It's always circled my top ten. I've always felt that if any movie that I could take from my personal top ten and replace it with this, this would be the one. It's. It's a goddamn masterpiece. Yeah, absolutely. And no one would argue with you because, I mean, I think you even make mention of that in the recording because it's just so true about how much you love it. It always circles your top ten. We did record that episode in late 2022, so I do make a few references to the movie being 15 years old, which it was when we recorded. Now, real quick, before we get going, just real quick story time. All right. About 16 minutes into this commentary during it's during the first scene where Daniel Plainview talks for the first time, you know, in front of that group, the 1911 title card comes up, Oh, how could I forget? Yeah, Well, during that scene in the commentary, I mention how my college roommate, James and I used to always quote obscure movie lines from There Will Be Blood to each Other. This went on years after college. Just out of nowhere. We would randomly text each other a very random quote from this movie. So I mentioned that in passing on the commentary. Now, I've not spoken to James in four years. There's no reason for that. It's just, you know, life, just no reason. Three days ago, as I am editing this episode, I get a text message out of nowhere from James that says, What was the name of the farm next to the Hill house, which is of course, a line from There Will Be Blood. What the fuck? I've spoken to this guy for years and as I editing the episode, the episode that I just mentioned him in, he text me about this movie. I don't know what the hell you call that fate. I know James is listening. Now we have a listener. Hey, James. My dad says I that great. It's just so, so rid of. I don't know that is like dominated my head the whole week. I can. I still can't believe this happened. I do, like, unpack it for James via text message like, No, dude, you have no idea. This is just a random dude text to be like, This is like this is deep, deep layers of again, I don't know what to call it, but I just love that good energy for the take it to this hard, good energy that's been credible. And welcome James Welcome to your new favorite podcast. Exactly. Exactly. Well, we're all liquored up and ready for the piece that's taken food industry. As soon as you hear the beep, as usual, that's when we hit play on the movie. Oh, real quick, $500 in 1911 is about $15,600. Now, that will be pertinent later. It's a lot of money. Figure that out, huh? You? Yeah. He actually did the math on that. Yeah, I did it myself without using Google at all. I was like, okay, let me sit down and do it. My inflation calculator. I brought out all these formulas. No, I just titled into Google Maps. All right, here we go. There will be blood. Have fun, everyone. We had a blast doing it in 3 to 1. There it is paramount vantage this it God I loved paramount vantage so assessment this little snap in there like that little I don't know what it is about it. Ladies and gentlemen, I've traveled over half our state to be with you tonight. I couldn't get away sooner because I did. Well, coming in a Kyrie Hills, and I did see about it that well is producing it 2000 barrels and paying me an income of $5,000 a week. That's it. You got to keep going. No, no. I decided to get out of the way. Oh, just right there, Boone. Yeah. Title card. That's it. You're just getting it. Wants nothing. Nothing else. No PTA picture, no studio present presents and then that sound and yeah, the Jonny Greenwood score, which is he's borrowing this from it sounds like different like if you go watch Bergman's persona, it kind of opens with similar sounds in the cool. Yeah, it's got a little 2001 in there too. Yeah, I think I, I think this 2001 is definitely an influence of this. I mean, we're going to get to all the influences, but we're starting. How do we even start this off? I'm just going to focus on this sequence because he, I remember reading an interview with Peter before this movie came out and he said it was his, not like it was one of his goals to try to make a movie with as little dialog as possible. And he said, For a whole movie, that would be pretty challenging. But I think I achieve that with the first, like, you know, 15 minutes of this movie. Oh, yeah. Because we get to learn like everything about this guy Daniel Plainview, just by observing him for a couple minutes. And we've talked about this sequence specifically like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this is its own movie right here, just this, this whole thing. But, you know, it's cool that what you said about PTA doing that. I would probably say that this might be his even throughout the rest of the movie, his least amount of writing for dialog, but maybe only I'm saying that in the sense that every time someone says anything, it seems to be as little as possible. But like so simple and to the point. Yeah, it's very it's very economical writing for sure. He's he's always really good at that. But yeah, it's, it's, I mean we can, we can jump in right with PTA you know he does hard eight Boogie Nights, Magnolia, Punch-Drunk Love and then takes a five year break and then we get this thing which no one was ready for. You and I were both around in 2007. I had no idea this was going to happen and it was going to be this, like, majestic, pure vision of this hell, you know, and of this fascination and as I've called, an addiction to greed, because that's what I think Daniel Plainview has. But this whole process, like, we don't know what he's doing. It's oh, my God. It's just so it's so compelling and interesting. I also want to say I just love that shot. He's like, bending over having that coffee. Yeah, the title card. I love that shot so much. I've always kind of felt about this movie that even though my top ten movies of all time are pretty rock solid, this is always the asterisk. Yeah, Yeah, you said that. Yeah. This is always like, if I needed to fill, if I need to take out any of my top ten and replace it with one other one, this was all with this would always be the movie. Yeah. And this leads me to another question. Like, do you think this is the American masterpiece of the 21st century so far in terms of filmmaking? We both like movies more, but you know, I've heard it called that, and I think that's totally fair. I just think it's an absolute masterpiece. I would 100% agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. We're at the 15 year anniversary. This movie came out December 27. As we've discussed costs, How much you think it costs. Oh, man. Well, definitely in the millions. Well, yeah, in the millions every day because of the. Yeah. You sometimes, you know, you think about a lot of media for like 500,000 and but in under ten, under 1025 which is to me like under ten would have been nuts. 25. It's like really, really cheap for a movie besides the tension of money. Well, okay, you didn't share that. It's a little too much it for me. It's not like I love that look on his face when he like when he can't pull it up and he takes takes his gun off, you know, and he's he's got that little bit of like, okay, I can't do this. Like what? I don't know, a little strain to him. Well, I mean, this is this is about as simple and and well-done filmmaking as possible when you have no dialog because we don't have any context for who this guy is or what he's doing. Right. So what you're seeing is just basically man versus machine right here. Like this guy is trying to do something and we're not quite sure what it is and we're watching it fail. Oh, God. Oh, God, that's terrible. And and yet. Oh, God, that's just in the show. If you look, it is like leg. It looks like it's turn the wrong way. I mean, this is the whole crux of the movie here to me, rather the crux of this character is that this dude is about to realize that that, you know, he just blew up a portion of this mine and now he's struck silver, so he's found it like it is like knee at the knee. It just looks twisted. And then he's going through somehow, which they don't show us, get all the way back to a town like a silver dealer. And that's enough for him. Like he doesn't care about this leg. He doesn't care about all this stuff he's gone through like he doesn't. It's just he has one mission and then he's he's happy right here when he finds the silver. But then the silver leads to, you know, buying the first things for that first oil rig. It just leads to other things. And everything is progressing. By the time you get to the end, it's like was all for Buddy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, is it are you. I don't know. I don't know. Well, going back to the the the last great American masterpiece ever made, part of the reason why I would still argue that this would be that is because also of kind of that thing you're talking about with greed. Like like America's a lot of things and greedy is one of them. Yes, it is. So to say something is an American masterpiece. I feel like it kind of needs to touch on a little bit of something that America can relate to. Think it's a really good point and something that like is also this is a historical account on oil, and that is obviously something that means a lot to America. This movie is also like low key. You know how the master is kind of quote unquote about, not about Hubbard from Scientology. You know, they never use his name. This is kind of the story of Doheny, the guy you essentially kind of built up California. And there's a street in Beverly Hills named after him. And the Doheny family were very big. And, I don't know, just go do some research and you can find that this is, yeah, a loose kind of characterization of him and a fictional portrait, you might say. Yeah, like blond at I don't use his name. I just love I don't know all the details of this. And we're hearing this Jonny Greenwood score and just I don't know when wind fade or Crossfade like we just did wind like whip hand when to do all this stuff and yeah, okay. So four years have gone by and going well I never seen based basically like what we're seeing is this is the price that he paid for that silver and this is what he's done with that silver in four years. Yeah. And I mean, he also paid the price of that leg because he we're going to we've talked about this so much with Daniel Day-Lewis, but his one thing that sets him apart from so many other actors to me is his command of posture and the way that he can stand, because he is I mean, go watch one of his Oscar speeches, like his Immaculate Posture, and he's very loose in Phantom Thread and he's leaning against doors and stuff. And in this, I mean, by the end of it, he's turning into like a monster, like old and hunchbacked and and imagine how unhealthy this would have been. There's digging like around for oil. No mask. Like they're just like down there. I mean it's kind of a wonder that he Plainview makes it this long. All right. Here we go is their first indication it's so we were talking about this a little bit before but it's so interesting to me that people have had the read that H.W. is then Daniel Plainview son and I just I've heard PTA say that that wasn't the intention, that it's clearly, you know, the dad is killed down here in the well and he just he loosely adopts him, I guess you could say, and pretends that, you know, I bet loosely adopts him as a like commodity just to help business. That's clearly what is happening. And he puts that all together in this shop. We're about to see him just staring at this crying baby. I wonder if Daniel Day-Lewis tried to build this shit. He's like, I got it, Paul. Let me do it. I, I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt. You're right in the head. The head is very important to him. I love how he wears this. I don't know. There's just everything about it is absolutely perfect and on point. And, you know, we were talking about violence a lot for good reason. On the Saving Private Ryan commentary and all the violence in this movie, you can feel you know, you can you can feel would it be like to like, fall down and crack your leg or get hit in the head with a bowling pin sound that barely underground echoes? No, this isn't the death part. No, no, but I let's just face. Yeah, crazy that this is like boom in this face right here of contemplation. Look at that. Jesus in this. I mean, there's a reason this one cinematography best cinematography over and No Country for Old Men. The assassination of Jesse James like those That's a tall order to be able to do that. Beat out Deakins twice. Yeah. Yeah. Bob with great DP apparently, apparently. LS Wheaton PTA do not get along very well at all, and that's why Ellsworth doesn't. You know, the last movie you shot of his was Inherent Vice, and PTA has become his own deep vein. Well, liquors pizza. But I think that's I just bring that up to say I think it's very interesting to hear this like behind the scenes stuff, you know, butting heads when what we see as the audience is like perfection. Yeah. So whatever you all had to go through to do that. We are we appreciate your efforts. And and I read something or else what was saying like, like, yeah, he was mentioning like the difficulty of it, but he's very proud of the work that he's did done with PTA because how could you not be I mean, regardless of your personal issues, he may have had like, you can't not look back at this work and be like, Oh man, we did a good job. Yeah, hell yeah. You created, I mean, a definitive American masterpiece. I mean, look at that. That's just brilliant. And again, to like, you know, it's always a conversation, I think, that's worth having about cinematography where because we can look at a shot like that and just look and marvel at like, the light coming from the back and everything. Next, talking about the shot, like from, you know, the guys looking down, looking down the well, just blowing by just, just for reference. But yeah, yeah. And, and to also kind of note like, like while that is gorgeous looking, the difference between photography and cinematography is what the camera is doing to tell the story. Right? So, you know, just something like this, as cool as it looks like this is just a part of it for sure. Absolutely. I mean, like that right there that's telling the story I got. I love when the you know, they get the oil on the camera. The rope hits it right here. It's also interesting that we really don't see a plain view like genuinely smiling a lot or putting forth that effort to like, be happy when you see like ecstatic right there, just slapping the oil on the dude's leg. I love that. Yeah. There's a couple of times throughout the movie where he's genuinely pleased about something, for sure, but for sure. And he lets it be known he shares it, but it's just those tiny little moments. Yeah. Like I think it's important to stress sober too, because sometimes he laughs when he's like, hammered and it's not. Yeah, I don't think this is really like genuine I mean it oil man it's just crazy that like that this was basically essentially kind of like discovered. Yeah. Just like, discovered and made California rich. Yeah. I mean, it is nuts that it was just literal oceans of oil under the mountains, and you had to really dig for it. Yeah. I mean, you had to dig like hell. This is the first like, yeah, I mean, this is just terrible because, God, you feel that in this. This is a tremendous shot. We're just going to see plane views. I you know, he like, looks, looks back to make sure didn't get hit And we're just going to see as I creep out of that so much heard that used on like a chocolate material for the oil. Oh really. Yeah that it was like I mean Ed Davis messing around. He said it was like the stuff that McDonald's uses to make chocolate shakes. Oh my. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know who the troops are right there. That stare to me he's contemplating like, what can I use this? Can I use this to my benefit? Or why not offer him a little fucking whiskey? Yeah. Good. Or in a way, is that like. I mean, maybe this is putting too much credit for Daniel Plain view here, but, like, maybe he's wondering, like, is this the right thing to do? This? Should I take this kid? But you're. You're probably more right, though. You're probably like, how can I use this? Well, yeah. I mean, you're you are giving him some credit there and pathetic It got to play. I think he's call me old fashioned, but maybe it's the romantic part of it. Yeah. See, I love how to me it is clear that he later on, like, genuinely loves H.W. and whatever he whatever is his way of loving. Yeah. Whatever the most you can get. I mean, like this right here. I mean this is like the most, like compassion that we've ever seen and will ever see. And this is great because obviously you can't teach a baby to, you know, do that. And yeah, like, I mean, like he, like, leans in like this is this is it right here. This is this is the nicest this man ever is. Yeah, pretty much. And genuinely like meaning it all. Here's my speech. I just love when this voice comes in and it's like it's the John Houston Chinatown voice. I know it's been compared to that a lot, but it's. I don't know. It's so I love his voice in this. He's so good with his voices. No, I understand that comparison. But I still think this is like this is something that he made uniquely his. Oh, yeah, Yeah, for sure. That if you want to give credit inspiration, that's totally fine. But he definitely 100% makes this his own. It's just the best fucking actor who's ever gotten lived it all. So we're going to talk a little bit now about just a little bit about staging, editing, cinematography, because we've been on him and, you know, we start really close here and just won't be able to pay attention. Like when we cut to wide. Why we cut too wide. Yeah, when we there's a lot of really good reveals even within the same shot, like the first time we meet Paul, the first brother Paul Dano, and like Kieran Haines is like, hidden behind him. A point all this out it's there's really cool subtle reveals like that you know he's going to and we don't even know who else is in this room and that it feels so lived in. Yeah. Because of all of these voices and it's a great cut. You know, I'm a family man and it's going to cut right when he says that, you see H.W. and you're like, okay, but we still don't have the ear, so we don't really know. You know, they're leaving us in the dark about certain things. Just pay attention to all this. Like when we're right there in this in this profile shot, we can't see. H.W. And he hasn't mentioned to me yet, so we don't. But we're also seeing a little bit of the room. Exactly. We're getting we're pushing out a little bit. We're pushing up. Boom. And there he is for a little fun. Everyone go look up. The actor who plays H.W., his only role, he was an actor. They found him in the school. Go look him up on IMDB at his profile picture. It's hysterical. This he like he's older? No, no, no, he's older. But I did want to describe because I want people to go see it. But he's from Marfa, Texas, where they shot a lot of this movie. And he's standing in front of like in a it looks like an abandoned Prada in Horford, Texas. And there's nothing else around. It's just he has like a goofy look on his face. But you can also see what he looks like now. So like, you know let's say it's funny that there was a Prada a standalone brick and mortar Prada store in Marfa, Texas, and then he decided to make that his identity profile. I don't know. It's hysterical. It's good, man. Let's get to speak in the note. And now we get the year. Yeah, now we and I that's it's all intentional because he's so good from from that first sequence when it's silent it's like we don't know really what we're watching or why. And you just have to trust in Peeta that he's going to take you somewhere. And does he ever when like, and like letting this noise continue? Sit there. Woman down. Sir, my college roommate used to say to each other all the time, I still text it to him sometimes. I don't know why. Sit there. We were down there and then, you know, if you're really paying attention, you kind of see here, you see it all flow. And they were trying to sell net lease and he's just going to go to this small household here and kind of buy them out and try to you know, it's essentially what he does with the band detract at the end. He's doing that up here where he's trying to go above and get. Yeah, well, he's trying to get in there, get a new in that isn't involving the whole community, you know, it's just bringing Mr. Banks out here. Another thing I want to really talk about in this league, this is a callback to your first point about the economy of the writing here. The way that he words things, it's from such like it's subtle, but it's so he's so he's always in command. He's always in control and he's always powerful. The best example of this is when he's meeting Abel. Someday I'll talk about that, you know? Do you have bread? We have potatoes. Potatoes would be fine. Like the dude never. He never offered bread, never offered potatoes. But then you listen to conversation. You're like, Oh, he wow, he really managed it. It's a it's an amazing, like, businessman and way of speaking it. It does. I agree with that completely. And he's doing a little here. That's why I brought it up. Sorry, sir. And he also I mean, when we talked about this on our PTA episode, but you would never even guess, like if you didn't know that Peter wrote his own stuff and directed it. If you were watching any one of his movies. They're all so vastly different in terms of their writing. Yeah, that's true. I think there's some comparisons like Boogie Nights, Magnolia, but, you know, there's still I mean, there's still one takes place in like 48 hours, the other takes place over almost ten years. So, yeah, there are differences in the way that he writes everything. I mean, this if you watch this, this, there's really nothing in There will be Blood where I'm like, Oh, yeah, the dude who made Boogie Nights made that your own. I don't really make that comparison. That's okay. I know. Yeah. That's why PTA is great is because all his movies feel so different. But yet when you when you when you realize that that's what you're watching, you're like, Oh, yeah, For some reason I can tell. But even though I have no reason as to why, it's just it's something that's just coming through from him. Mm hmm. Yeah. Paul Dano. Yeah. I mean, a lot to unpack here. This was originally Paul Dano's only performance, only role in this movie. Yeah, they didn't. He was Paul, And they had another actor to play Eli And it. I don't know. All this stuff I'm not going to get into, too. We've also talked about it just wasn't working out with Daniel Day-Lewis and it wasn't. So I don't even know. He was like, if he had had as much work at that point as Paul Dano, I don't know. But they make this crazy decision to, like, offer him both parts and wow, does it work? Because even if this was his only role, he's still really effective here. The choices he makes. Like, I'd like to leave now, but it's always one more like that's always the most heartbreaking thing you can never really deal with as an actor is to get cast in something, start it, and then for whatever reason get fired from it. It would be tough. It would be tougher than hell. Yeah. So right here, we're about to reveal that you know, there's Karen Haynes right there and we couldn't see him. This is all in one shot and we couldn't. And then, you know, it's just a really nice reveal. Now we're like, Okay, who the hell is this guy? We're about to find out. Find out that h ws asleep behind him. Just, you know, all this little stuff. And this is. It's one of the few times in the movie where someone, Daniel Plainview, is speaking to. In this case, Paul, they're almost like intellectual equals. It seems like Paul's very good about, you know, that would be telling you, you know, don't get so he doesn't want to reveal anything where he's from, who said it was up Like it's very, very smart. There was a very clear indication to a very in the dialog of knowing Daniel Plainview does not enjoy any type of religion. Yeah, it's one of those yeah, it's one of my favorite lines that I don't have. I enjoy them all. They all say, You think Daniel Plainview was practicing a lot of Buddhism? Yeah, exactly. I love that. I enjoyed them all. Oh, God, look at that little laugh. Yeah, that seems kind of like. Okay, okay, kid, I got you. I got you. I see you. One of the best lines of this movie is he's like, No, you can stay in. You know, I like to leave now. He just goes, If I go all the way there and find that you're lying, I'm going to find you. Take more than my money back. It's all right with you. I love it because. Cool. Do the math of like 1911. What $500 meant in 1911? I don't really know, but I guarantee is a shitload of money. I'm going to say 2000. No to held her it fine. I could look it up. You think 2000? Yeah, I think that would be the equivalent. Okay, cool. We'll just go with that $2,000. Do you think? Would you think I'm off? I think it would probably. I think it counted in money. Like the best of them. You just said, like, 10 minutes ago you could. What's really interesting, though, it's really interesting about this, is that right? He does give him $500, you know, in the novel. But in the end, when he's bullying Eli, he's like, I gave him $5,000 cash in hand and that this is not true. It's like he just messing with him. Yeah. It's also interesting. Pulp Me here seems nice. He's just he's very his own character, but he doesn't seem very well-liked within his own family. We never see that. But the way he's talked about, it's like, I don't know. He just doesn't seem well-liked. Like the song that left. I don't know. There was somebody out hearing This is a great shot, someone some very, very smart, astute person made a video like breaking down the math magical cinematography of this whole sequence of Paul coming in of this thing. And it's all like in terms of where your eyes are supposed to look, you know, like where our eyes are grabbing attention to for the screen. And it was like, perfect. Like, I don't know, I can't explain it. Well, it's really cool. Like, all the characters are not well lit, but the map is Good call. Good call. Still works it. Oh yeah let's because I think that's the that I mean like that's what's to know right here. Have you asking about the sisters. Yeah. One of them will be his bride. I always appreciate when an actor has the confidence to turn their back on the camera. I was just thinking the same thing. Like one of the biggest movie stars in the world. The star of this movie's back is just to us, and he's not even trying to cheat with his face either. And he just really contemplating it's like, okay, okay. And we you get it. Like, I totally buy it. It's a very theatrical thing to do, too, because, you know, one of the big no nos, if you're on the stage as an actor is turn your back to the audience because you really can't see anything. Sure. But if it's a choice intentional, it's one of the most powerful things and actor can do on a stage. So I think that right there is, you know, that's just him knowing full well what he's doing but that that yeah that that's very, very true. And I agree with all that. I just I love the way they both handle that sequence. I already did the line of it, but I got I just love it. And this is another reason I love this movie so much is because here is the first time we're seeing little Boston and there ain't shit here. There's a train track. There's like a little like, train office or whatever this tiny building is. And then we see throughout the course movie. Yeah, he builds it up because of the oil. He brings in it. You know, they have a school church. It becomes like an actual town. Like he builds this town from nothing. But the movie is not forcing that down your throat. It's never, I don't know, like showing you a wide shot of the town and then ten years later, the same one and you see more buildings. You just have to observe. You know, it's interesting. I don't know how intentional this was, but the score, the first note is so ominous, like this right here. And then and then it gets nice and it gets nice. It's keeping us on balance. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Cause this is such a pretty hopeful little note. And maybe now it's getting a little weird, but. But to balance that out so. Well, yeah, you don't know what to think or feel. You don't know what to think of this guy. You don't really know to think of anything. So what? I actually have one of the reasons I love the title of this movie so much perfect is because there isn't a lot of blood. No, that's what that's what I think. People are actually mad about that a little bit. I, I just got to call this out. I love when he kind of looks back and waits for AGW to catch up. I don't know why I. I love that so much, but yeah, it's a great title. It's very captivating, makes you want to see it. And yeah, there's it's never said and then when you get to the end then even though there's not really a lot of showing the blood or whatnot but you you know that there is. Oh yes. And you're like, okay, well that's, that's what this all was. Yeah. Yeah. There's horns. Everything thing was the lead of this. So this scene genuinely like when he coming to the Sun ranch This is my favorite dialog portion of the movie. I love this back and forth. I always have written about it before. I think it's the best example of Daniel Plainview, very subtly and very calmly just exerting command and power. I mean, how much he's able to set up here, you know, what will be over there out of your way, I think for quote. Yeah, but it's something of quail. Beautiful, wide shot. God, this movie taught me so much about audio and movies and how to capture audio because, you know, boom likes in the shot and, you know, they're miked up. And it really took like watching something like this to be like, oh, yeah, you can put you can hide microphones on actors and do it. I just hadn't put it together before. I know that sounds stupid, but I hadn't. And it was it's a scene when H.W. comes back and he's way, way far away and then he goes and hugs him like, Oh, that's interesting. They're really letting you into the world. Like they know when he knows when to go tight and he knows when to do this these wide wonders because we cut. But once we got into this current shot, it just stays one shot. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. The bring Yeah. No one. He didn't offer you potatoes like. Oh God I love that. Another thing when you're shooting outside this much see that sky? That sky is only going to be like that for a little bit. You know, it looks like the sun's kind of setting. So not you're not getting this over and over, like take, take, take. Yeah. You have to nail it or come back the next day. Really better to film in one when you're doing that. It is a power move too by doing that because not now that house and the guy's apologizing. Exactly how the hell is the the owner of this ranch? Why is he apologizing to this guy? You're just setting up camp. Exactly. And then that kind of tells Plainview, is this tracking all this information? You know, this guy can be impressionable. This guy can be. Got it. Most likely. And this is also a great way to kind of like really confuse the audience. I was going to ask you, what did you think of this the first time you saw him? I thought it was him. And then it's Paul, of course. Yes. How could you not? Well, yeah. And then when he introduces himself as such, and then you see, I mean, playing, he's like, okay, I love how he shakes his. Yeah. He puts this ad all the way back. And then as soon as he leaves, Daniel and H.W. will share a nice look of like, Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. I was stunned because he mentions that he has a brother. Eli. He does. Okay, So he's so he's putting it together for himself that these are twins. Right? But you also have to wonder 1911, like how many people have seen sets of twins? I mean, genuinely, there's no I don't know. This could that could be the first time he's like seeing a twin. I also wonder I remember the first time I saw I did. I thought that maybe he had split personalities and was introducing himself as Paul and then as Eli. Yeah. You get you can go down all those roads. And that's what movies have taught us, that they played these tricks on us also. But yeah, that was it is a really fun way to like intentionally, you know, confuse. But we're not he's not isolating us because No we're tracking it all. Again if you if you stick with him, he'll take you there. Yeah. This is a great example of of not taking your audience for granted. Like, just like no. And then if you don't get it, then you prize plays in the movie for you. Yeah. This movie doesn't treat people dumb, but, you know, it's not like explaining things to us. But it also to me isn't so challenging to where it's going to alienate people. I think it did honestly alienate a few people in 27 and I don't think certainly wasn't reviewed as well as no Country for Old Men. It didn't fare as well as the Oscars, which is its own thing. That's fine. But I remember thinking and saying a lot in December 2011 that this movie is going to be remembered as like an unquestionable masterpiece. And I think people are sleeping on a little bit now. But, you know, if you walked into this movie wanting to see Boogie Nights or Magnolia or something like that, it ain't That or Liquors Pizza or Well Known Liquors. Pizza didn't exist in 2017. Yeah, no, I'm just saying, man, I'm just I always appreciate how he goes. Yeah, he makes plenty of you. Makes it a point to include H.W.. Like, here, you sniff this as well. And when he's explaining things to him, like you see that, you see that. And really working here is a real genuine laugh that we're going to get from Daniel Plainview. And that's why we're being quiet, because it's so rare. H.W. even seem surprised. Yeah, here's your money. That's my mind. Have you ever seen the treasure of the Sierra madre? We talked about this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was just a huge inspiration for this movie. It is apparently his favorite film of all time. Oh, wow. He apparently, apparently watched it. I've heard he watched it every night of filming this movie. That seems a bit excessive, but he watched it a lot while filming this. And that's a great film. Everyone should go watch that. John Huston directed. You know, I understand that. I remember there were a handful of movies that I would just way they were, maybe I wouldn't even watch them and from start to finish every single night. But if while we were filming there, I'd go there were like a couple that I was like, All right, I just have to be with this movie all the time. It's they're like safety blankets. Because when you are actually filming something, I like to I'm not watching random shit and not going to the movie theater. I'm not because I don't want to get, you know, like messed up in my head. I do the same thing. I'll pick like two or three. And those are my, you know, those are my Bibles, kind of my gods, because they always bring you back to your life because you whatever connections you've made with those movies that are reflective of what you're currently creating, you kind of just have to kind of always be like, All right, nothing else matters except for this. This, this is this, right? Is this exact this is this is Shane has been mine for two of my films, too. Yeah. Two earrings in weight. Yeah. Yeah. I would just watch it all the time. That's another. This is another great thing that just so old school of I like to talk to you about, you know, some business and they just send the women outside so they can't be around for business talk like what this actor playing Abel keep straining with his name. It's such an obvious religious name. He's great. He hasn't been in a lot of movies. I think he's perfect in this. I really, really love this guy. My favorite movie being no more hitting. No in the way he and Daniel have that nice stare down. But here we're really starting to get the this scene. We're really going to start to dial in on this greed versus religion. Daniel verse. Eli This is what it's when everything is on on the literal table here. Yeah. The deal and you know, you guys going to bring up oil and then that's when we cut into our closeup of plain view. So again, it's all intentionally been in this wide shot the whole time. And when we cut in, when he feels like he's being properly challenged is when it cuts in. He's like, you know what? Whatever random number and yes, I believe it's it's it's yeah, I think this movie is hilarious. I'm going to be laughing a lot. And this this is another one that I think like doesn't really get remembered for its humor as much. I think this movie is hysterical, but the good Lord is guidance because it's just so layered and sarcasm. Now we're going to cut to this reverse close above. And when he's really studying Eli, I love that he's playing dumb here about drilling, you know? Yeah, as it would be. I do have few contacts, something, you know. Oh, it's always a testament to an actor. God, sorry. Yes. Where you can go toe to toe with Daniel Day-Lewis like this. And he's one of the best ever do it. He genuinely is like he because he he's never going to be the dominant one. He's never going to be he's never going to best Plainview in terms of like masculinity, whatever you or rage, whatever you want to call it. But yeah, toe total, this is two men just completely in stalemate with each another stalemate. But like there they are in competition. There's a showdown right here. Yeah. Comes to the showdown. They won't be there. I mean, I think they're they're kind of heated chemistry. Their embattled relationship is even better here than like Leo and Daniel Day-Lewis in Gangs of New York. I think. I don't know. I think Paul Dano and him are really somewhat more convincing and he's stirred right here to like, oh, yeah, like this is under his skin. And I love I was always sweaty, like he's you know, he's a he's an oil man. He's never he's oily. Yeah, he's oily. I mean, yeah, seriously, oily is sweaty a little bit. He's never cleanly shaved. Just part of it. You know, I believe in plain speaking, he has this whole, like, thing, this whole hustle. It's all part of the hustle. I think he thinks about the way he looks, how he dresses, how he speaks very, very, very carefully, by the way. And shake his hand. Oh, no. Because it's a prayer. It takes it away, you know, And look how said he is. But Oh, God, it's just so fucking good. I'm about to blow your mind. All right, hold on this Like I talk to you, looking for some land that is both the sun, etc.. The branch lines better than yours. Listen. All right? Do you know who this actors? Santa Claus. He's not Santa Claus. Santa Claus is fucking dead, man. Oh, grow. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul. So you know what it would have been? Yeah. For Billy Madison, big SNL character. I love this guy. People do that. He'll cast like comedians, funny people in. I mean, Paul Tompkins. Paul W Tompkins. He's in this in a small role. He'll do that and have him like play it straight. I think it's just that just, you know, he if you ever watch the interviews, like he's a very strange little guy where he finds certain things very funny, he has a very warped sense of humor, I would say. Yeah, not that like distasteful sense of humor, but, you know, things like he loves all those Adam Sandler movies. Yeah, exactly. But all those it's got, like, talk shit about them. A bit of, like, raunch to him or, like, whatever it might be. Look at that fucking shot. So you see that flicker on the bottom left? That's the actual film I was thinking in the camera. Yeah, because the light is just on the edge of the frame. So it's literally like battling that light. And that's genius. It's in the blues of it. Oh, my God. Oh, I love this scene so much. I love this guy. I never seen him. I don't think I've ever seen that movie. But there's so much being played here. Like the second Jean here sees H.W., He knows he's been God plane views already there. But clearly plane View has a nice you know, report them. I love I'd rather be you than someone else Like I said Jean go east and Jean kind of sees through him you know he yeah you got it right telling me how how handsome my son is. You know, it's nice you had this little boy to tout around kind of calling him out. But Plainview is not threatened here. Like these two clearly have a, you know, camaraderie that I appreciate and the way he blinks at. And when he shakes his hand, like I said, go east. I've seen this movie like if we haven't done it already, which I don't think we have, but I will give it credit to how good of a mustache that DDL can grow here to Fintan Stick mustache. Great tip, Very full stache, very full. They're powerful. This is this is this is a very pita. I don't know why, but there's something about this shot. Just this one in particular. Yeah. I don't know. Like, I don't know. There's a problem, like everything about. And maybe I'm thinking of the master. Like, just the kind of way of this set up with the camera. But I don't know. There was something a little about the urgency of how fast the camera was moving while we were watching Karen Hines walk in. I don't know. I noticed that sometimes with PTA where there's there's just something about like the set up and then the movement of the camera. Right? Right. It's always thought out. And I mean, it's what I was kind of saying before even the editing cuts to like when do you when you crossfade when you hard cut when maybe it was the music too because it was that very kind of like frenetic kind of like that. The sound was very uppity. Mm hmm. And maybe I'm thinking of Punch-Drunk Love in that same way. Sure. Oh, I love this part, too, because this is we're really going to you know, it's it's so great what they tell us, but don't show us because we don't see him talking to able without, you know, don't hit your daughter anymore. You know, that conversations take place. But we know that conversation has taken place. But the fact that H.W. here is bringing this up to him, like it's really the only time we kind of see him asking his dad for help and he doesn't even come out and ask it. He's just like I it's a moment of tenderness between them that I really, really like. And, you know, Plainview is going to do something about it, and that's really only for the benefit of his son. Like he doesn't think he cares about marriage. I don't know, maybe what I look at. The cold's the blues. Yeah. God. And you know, they've been talking about this bandy guy from like, minute 25, minute 30, and that's going to pay off way, way later. And I just love that. You got to you got to keep track of all this. You know, you got to track it. You got to hear these names. And I don't know anyone who could do that kind of on the first viewing. But when you've back and watch this dozens and dozens of times and studied it, it's very nice to see that every detail matters. It really does. It's like kind of the same version of the speech that we heard before. Evidently. Apparently, this was all improvised. The bread thing, like I want to talk about bread. PJ said He was just like he was locked in while. Yeah, but again, it's all part of his hustle. He's like, Hey, I believe in plain speaking. I'm here, too. We're going get water up here. We're going to build church schools. It's all everything's going to be perfect. Everything. Everyone. Mm hmm. We're going to fall. Thanks to me. Mm hmm. This is always an interesting question. This, like, I, I. I don't know why I thought of it. I think it's because he was trying to like the H.W. was trying to talk to his dad about the girl. Mm hmm. Do you think Daniel Plainview has ever had sex? This? I was waiting. I was going to wait to bring this up. This is a whole conversation about this. I've thought about it constantly. What else am I going to think about? Like I said no and said it was normal. I'm not to blow your mind. But the playwright in the original script that he Pettersson Deedle, he admits to being impotent. Oh, I don't know if it's in that bargaining. They give me some money with that, you know, drunk brother. But he admits, like he admits to his quote unquote brother that H.W. is not his son. And he goes, He could not be my son. And he like kind of punches himself in the crotch and goes, this thing doesn't work. It's something that affects. So he's impotent. So if that means I'm very, very glad they cut that out of the movie. Honestly. Yeah, we can feel I've always been able to feel like the absence of sexuality on Daniel Plainview is. It's such a choice. Yes. Like it says, even when they you know, he calls them during the pipeline, during when they're slapping you. You know, I've been in my child. He calls them like a womanizer. And it's it's interesting because I never that never really tracked for me. But, you know, he could be even talking about that shithead brother or whatever it is. But so was playing. Do you ever had sex? I genuinely don't know. I think he has tried and it's been unsuccessful on a number of occasions, perhaps. And now he's like putting it out of his head and he's just yeah, he's an oil man who wants that money. He is. He just wants money. It's greed. That's it. And I think one of the tragic things about this is that it's really for no reason. Like, we don't it doesn't you know, by the time the movie ends, I'm finished. Yeah. Like, cool. What was all this for? You're rich, but you're like a drunken Frankenstein. Oh, no. So, yeah, I would say his sexual life has been pretty absent. Maybe my guess years, too. Yeah, I would absolutely say that. Some people have asked if he's gay. I think that's a bridge too far. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think he's playing that. I think he is playing it with I don't know that women just don't seem to be a factor. Well, or maybe he's not interested as well. Like it could very well just be a thing where, like sexuality just is not a thing that even crosses his mind. Right? He might recognize it in other people. Like he might be like, Oh, that. Because that's what people do like that. Like, that's something that I don't people do. I understand that about people because he talks about people like that. He sees their actions and behaviors and assesses them for what they are. But if they don't it's those things aren't useful to him, then he just doesn't even think about it. And it would also strike me the same way because he is so one track minded in his goals and his like he's like ambition is ambitious, is not a big enough word. And someone who's just put dominance, that's what he just wants to dominate. Yeah, Yeah. And if you eliminate sexual energy from your life in that way and you put all of that towards your goals, you get like this type of stuff. I kind of made some comparisons to I have in the past this too Raging Bull about because it shows how he is intentionally sexually frustrating himself like before fights and stuff. Yeah. How it's just using sexuality in a very different way. But yeah, the absence of it here is the absence of it from plain view is important, especially when it's brought up, you know, with his brother, it's brought up in other areas, but never in relation to him. It's always a question that I find to be. I forgot who I heard it from first, but someone said that if you're an actor and whether it's brought up in the script or not, to get very, very clear about what your sexuality is and like, what is your sex life like, and to be able to kind of use that in your performance, even if it's never even brought up in the script at all. Right? It just you want it you want to bring that in and like have that be a part of you and live with that. Yeah, exactly. And so that's why I think that we both kind of have this an opinion about that here because obviously sex is not brought up in this, but that's why I read because I was like, What do you think of this guy? Right. Right here we get home and this is just one of the great like big F use the way he Daniel sits here and eats all this, you know, because Eli is trying to come in and put his flag down, be a bit of a boss man. And, you know, he's got he's so nice, you know this, but what he's demanding, you know, they're really testing each other here a little bit. And I just the way plain view plays it so straight and then without even saying anything, just puts his middle finger up, you know, by inviting Mary instead of Eli up there. Oh, that's great. I'm pretty sure the guy on the left was like a scout or technical advisor. I've seen interviews with him and they gave him this this little cameo, which I think is cool. I love this. Like, he like he. He just can't let this go. Like, he just can't let this happen. No, absolutely not. He can't have anyone else tell him what to do and how to run his shit like you will. I need to bless this. Well, that needs to happen. And I think he even says, like, what time works for you? Like, he's just messing with him. Yeah, that's fine. Oh, and he's so pissed. The way he contains his anger. It's the love. I love that. Like, he's already has this shit planned out. Yeah, let's make it for sure. And And. And when you're watching this movie, you know, you're not really understanding to, like, exactly what's really going on. Like, you're following everything. But I love it that this is actually what the movie's about. Like. Like, Oh, okay, so this guy wants to come here and do this thing tomorrow, and then you watch and you see what's about to happen. And and this is this is it. This is this is the movie. Yeah, it's that. That back ending. Oh, God, It's just so brilliant. Also back to that economy of writing, because what? Because we're all watching to see what he's going to do. Yeah. How is this going to go down And then. Yeah. Yeah. But why else would you ask for a scene. Always want to come on remote tomorrow and bless the world. Yeah. Okay. So that's what you're thinking. Oh, okay. This guy wants to come here and do this one thing and simple thing than this simple thing. And this is what matters to him. And this is what matters to him. And the stakes couldn't be higher the way they both view it. And that's what makes the conflict so damn. And then watch when he says, you know, Eli's line here looks right at them. Grab them. Who? That man. And look at that look. You had preacher man that basically like, Fuck you. Yeah, this ain't happening. Hurry up. Yeah, that's you. Good movie. But it is blocking literally. Even if Eli even tried to come through, he's like, No, you're not getting through this. Coming up here, we're going to get here. The that ending gorgeous musical composition for the first time, right? Right. Yeah that's it. I believe it's I'm going to get it wrong. I think it's Brahms, you know, I don't know got done with that. Boom. And you have to like I remember that. What? Oh, yeah. So you can't see it. Like, he's like. I understand how interested in the situation, you son of a bitch. And I remember. Yeah, that's true. I remember seeing this for the first time, hearing that note and thinking this note, this music was like, so big for this sequence. But it's so smart to do that because now we're familiar with that piece. So when it comes back in the end, it just hits so much harder. Yeah, because it's already in our brain, even if we don't like remember exactly when it was before. It's just great. Yeah. Oil taken off the music source. Little blast. I think it's so crazy to think like this is the way it like. It just doesn't look like it. It would be sturdy. Yeah, it doesn't look like it would hold. I mean, I clearly they show, you know, there are different issues with that. But yeah, it's it's crazy how these things these kind of seemingly shaky things like literally build California Yeah like that to get the oil out you needed this and that's that's how it happened. I feel like every scene of this movie is like my favorite scene. I keep saying that, but this is just great. This is another example of staging because they're going to do a pretty good job like, you know, our attentions on Mary, and then it's going to be on Daniel and Mary, and they do a good job of blocking able from the frame. So right there Mary's blocking able. Like if you were really, really paying attention, you could see Abel sitting there. But when you're watching this for the first time, you don't. And then as soon as she leaves the frame and Mary is giving him, he gives him like a triple take, almost. Abel gives to Daniel. I love it. And this is just the ultimate power move. Like telling you how to raise your daughter or else know total power. Hopefully it's going to come back. One look to three. HELMER Oh, Kurt, He's just sitting there with this flask. Also, kind of the first instance here when the alcohol is becoming a factor that, you know, after the celebration like this two ended up on the floor, like not even in his bed, and he just hammered I mean, he's crushing, you know, liquor like the whole damn movie. How he did it back in the day. Some men did it. I love that voice. Yeah. Oh, God damn it. Damn thing's been open a day there. He lost the guy. You know what could have prevented that, Nick? That's right. That the blessing of the. Well, you know, this could have been prevented. It's a great cut back to Daniel Plainview after the sequence, and he's just exhaling. He goes, God damn it, it's a great cut. And because you could even wonder for yourself, like if he's saying, God damn it, because he lost a man, or if he said, God damn it, because he knows that Eli is going to use this. I think I would actually credit to a third thing, which is I'm I'm going to have to fucking an hour to deal with this and it's going to delay production, which means I'm now delaying the time to find oil. And therefore, it's just it's messing because, you know, shut down told me day you don't want to do that. So I also think he doesn't want a guy to die and I think he's going to get shit from Eli. So I think it's all three of those. Yeah, yeah, genuinely. Oh, he looks like a bloody muddy mess. They're a bloody anonymous mess like that. Thank you. Look, there's a real body. That poor actor. Oh, yeah, he really did. And that Nicholas. No, I'm not saying that. If you fucking dead. I'm saying if he had to sit there for a night, covered it all that shit. Well, they're just like dragging him around. No one died in the making of this film. Let's be clear. Tell Simon. Yes. One thing I do one question I have. The dude that died here was like smoking down there. And as we're going to see later, like fire oil, not not good. So it just makes me wonder, is it really understood that it's going to take like weeks to get the oil. So it's cool, Like we can smoke around when we're down here in the dirt. Like that's fine. But I remember being like, Oh, that's that's really a dangerous thing. Well, there's only one way to find things out in life if you're going to go try. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Go to your oil derrick. Go to my old derrick and then light up of smoke because I smoke. And also see what happens and be like, All right, they got it right. I love how he holds out that, you know, that's Eli's church, but he holds it out to flex there without, like, looking at him. Yeah. Just so he'll do that a few times. He does that when he hands in the check for San Francisco. Okay, This is all one shot from here to when we cut back to Daniel taking this all in. This is one shot. And I cannot tell you, like, look how bright it is out here. Yeah, having to. I don't know when they changed exposure to be able to correctly expose this room, but they just did that in camera. Like that just happened. You would. That's the only way to do it. So I don't know. Maybe it did it another way. I should have said only fucking idiot. This is probably a bunch. This is insane. It's insane. This is one of my favorite movie moments with my mom because I had already seen it and I took her to see it. And when, you know, when he's at like, just really quietly, like under a breath, she went, She's crazy. She's like, What the fuck? This is the third revelation Eli puts his hands on. You get rid of the arthritic arthritis. I do, But all one shot, very careful motion. We started on one main character, and then we shifted to another. All brilliant. And if you pay attention really closely, is Eli leaving the church doing his whole, I don't know, song and dance? Yeah, you can see Daniel, like, standing there. So he's aware that Daniel's in the room. Oh, yeah. AT and, and I think this is also like one of the moments to where after this is over, there's a look on plain view his face. It always kind of said to me, it's like, Oh, okay, I now I really understand what I'm dealing. You mean like when we cut back to him that up? That is the look. That's what I'm saying. He's like, really assessing everything and going like, Holy shit, this is deeper than that. Yeah, yeah, deeper. There's another thing here that I'm actually going to have to compete against this now. But I mean plain you send off, there's one goddamn hell of a show and God damn emphasizing it because you're watching like the two men's occupations basically go back and forth and I mean, I've a lot of questions about Eli. This is an act. Does he actually believe this? He admits for money that he's a false prophet in God is a superstition. I know religious people, they wouldn't do that for money Like they're not you know, they're not going to go they're not going to denounce God. No. So, like, so feverish. Look at this. Oh, it's very, very impressive because it's so it's over the top, but it works. Here we go. Brilliant. Cut, bow. Yeah. He's like, Where am I? Was? Is this a scene? The power that he has to? Because this is really this is a movie about power. Yep. Power control. People in this town listen to Eli. Yes. And that could be a potential issue, especially if Eli is going after Daniel's men, which is dancing with them now. I mean, I know. Handshakes. Wonderful sermon. Wonderful sermon, Joe. Good. It was a man of considerable faith. This all could have been avoided through the doorway. Yeah, And one of my favorite things, searchers, I'm telling you, fucking John Ford knew what he was doing. Bit of an asshole, though, and said, Oh, see, now here's him offering up a condolence. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. Here it is. Uh, practicality versus religion. Mm hmm. Yeah. Logic versus faith goal. I wish I had time. Uh, I love it. It's just this ongoing gag that he. You know, he's offered him $5,000 for the do for the new church, which he never pays him, and he just keeps bringing it up, like after his, you know, when they when he accepts the the blood of the Lord, I just love it. And he goes, Mr. Plain view is made a gracious donation which we are still waiting on that he brings it up at the very end of that one goddamn hell of a show. He says, God damn do all. That's what I mean. That's why I brought it up earlier. That's so funny, because you say that to a preacher like I to him. So what's. What's Eli's end game? What does this dude want? This? Does he want mass control? And to be like some, you know, religious person who has hundreds of thousands of followers or like, what's his goal? I think I think I think his goal is to keep his town as flourishing as possible with the power of religion. Mm hmm. Okay. And and hit And Dale played. You coming in here? They will. Why can't we have both? Like, I want this for my town, But then, you know, when we get to the end, things are not going so well. He's drinking, Lost all of his money. Yeah. Yeah. And Eli comes to him looking for a handout basis. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I still think the intentions are not because he just wants money. He wants his town to be good again with religion. Yeah. Women. Religion? Yeah. What we're slowly approaching is just one of the most magnificent, magnificent sequences I've ever seen in a movie. Certainly so far this century. The. I mean, God, the music, the way it's all played, the fear we have for H.W. really feel that hit when it happens. It's also interesting that the first interesting that the first thing Daniel does is run to help H.W. You know, it's like he's I don't know if he saw him fall, but he knows he has. Yeah, it's very well he's aware that he's not there and that something could have happened. Mm hmm. You just know something's going to happen here to like nothing. Nothing's even telling you that there's. There's no music. No music. But you feel like there is. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Boom! Oh, God, That's terrible. The sound is so good. You really, you know, getting a getting a sense of, like, his headspace, that kind of muffled hearing thing, you know, being able to hear. Yeah, that's a great shot. Just run into H.W.. Yeah. No, no, fire is important, but that fire up, boom, ocean oil baby when they are trying to a not yet when they're trying to take down the derrick, you know, you have to hit like the spikes with your hammer playing you gets it in one there it's like three or four hits. I just love that. Oh my God. I genuinely do wonder, like, what the hell were they supposed to do with this? All this shit? Like we see them just putting it in, like, huge piles and stuff. Like a pond? Yeah. How do you. I don't know. That's a little above my head in the movie. Doesn't seem very interested in explaining that, which is totally fine. Well, it's good. I think you get it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. There's basically these deposits in the pipeline. So you going to. Yeah. Start out the pipeline and a pipeline. That's what we do. Or the whole pipeline. Here we go. This. This is the song apparently, according to the Academy, in their infinite wisdom, this is the song that made Jonny Greenwood ineligible for a best score nomination because he had use this song elsewhere. Just this part. That's stupid. That's so stupid as hell, because he wrote it exactly like his song. His song. He's lending it. He's been contracted as the scorer of the film. That's what doesn't make sense. Like, why not credit if it's credited as another song like score movie scores get nominated all the time. When there are different songs in the movie, you know, like license songs. Just I think that was people. I think that was the Academy being pissed like, Oh God, here come these musicians, you know, these like, pop stars, Radiohead, really? And then by Trent Reznor, We can't afford this anymore. Like, we have to give it to them for social network. Yeah, like this. Damn it. This is the thing like, I'm not really saying no, because, I mean, think about classical movie scores. The orchestra like there's, there's a very there's a way you did things. Yeah, there is And Jonny Greenwood doesn't do that. Arts is so sad to me. Whereas when I can't I can't hear my voice. It's terrible. But he cares about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You look at him, but now he's going to be hit with a really hard decision, which is, I don't think this boy is financially useful to me anymore, so I'm going to cast him away was devastating. But it's still money comes first. Money, greed, power, money, power, respect. Hold him down. It's hard to talk during this and not just watch. I know, I know. I kind of got wrapped in the you know, you see, we got to break the cables or DDL is going to get it in one. Oh, God, It's just it's so good. Oh, it's incredible. Just the cinema, how everything's moving, what he decides to keep in frame. Mm. Perfect. One shot. Boom. That's been his practice for years. He probably did. Yeah. Every night he had his. Yeah, he has spikes, swings there. He's got to do it at one. I think I'm pretty sure this Fletcher. Yeah. He takes a few hits. It's okay. Most people would. He's missing. Wonder what caught it on fire. Just like if someone was smoking or. I don't know. You know what I mean? I wonder how it actually caught on, but it's what an image. I've never seen anything like this. Like the way here, the sun setting and Paul, Dana watching it. It's like it's beautiful and but then everything it stands for, you know, it stands for greed, power, it stands for all this stuff. So it's a beautiful image for the future. Yeah. Yeah. But a it's burning in effigy. Well, yeah, it's. Yeah, yeah. Good job. You know, they were trying to film in Marfa, Texas, at the same time. Movie called No Country for Old Men. They were trying to film at night and they could see way in the distance those flames shooting up. But they were like, no way is said, Yeah, yeah, that's what the hell is that's in there. Is that funny? That's amazing. Yeah. That gives you a sense of how big that flame tower was. And it's all real. It's in special effects and the competition between. Those two movies. Yeah. Yeah. Get that. So cool. Yeah. Just covered in chocolate. That is good. That's great. I love. That's what's wrong with you. Yeah. Yeah, He's probably worried about H.W.. Honestly, Fletcher is such a good guy. He means so well. I really like him. I really like his portrayal of his character. I love that no one can get at it, except. Yeah, that's like, What are you miserable about? Yeah. And he just has is H.W. like, that's this question is H.W. okay, we used okay when go check on him that Oh, there it goes. So I wonder if this means they have to, like, start over because they, they clearly use dynamite, you know, seal the hole here so that the fire stops. So yeah, I guess now that they know that it's there, that's enough. Yeah. Oh yeah. That keep going. It's like, who cares? We just. Yeah, we start over and do it, but we're good. They'll pay for itself in a week. Yeah. Okay. We just covered or, you know, oil. Love it. Fletcher's like, okay, I'll. I'll go check on your son. Sure. Like matches the the black of the night. You just see his face peeking through. God, look at him. He's, like, staring with it with such wonder, like, Oh my God, I got it. I had nothing will stop me and the music still going just enough to tie everything together and it's going to cut out with this brilliant, so subtle nod that Daniel Day-Lewis does after it blows up. I love it. The pipe in his mouth. It just gives this little nod of like, Yep, good. Moving on, shitload of dynamite. As if he never even left that spot for the whole night. Yeah, it's been there. Take it on in as it spits. He doesn't care. I wouldn't want that job. Let me tell you that these shields, lot of shields are going to hell. Much. Look at that. Just go. It's been going all night. Burning that oil, burning the midnight oil. Sorry that Iran doesn't even jump. Oh, I was just sitting there, so still. I know. That's crazy. All right, Alpha, God damn show. Here's a little knob. Boom. Yep. And it's always interesting, Like, he's, like, based on the Stop it. Yeah. You like. Like enough now? Yeah, that's. Yeah, I can hear you. Do. Oh, again. I mean, he never knows how to, how to handle it and he always handles it very poorly. Like he gives him a shitload of whiskey and milk later like. Oh, not a lot of shots. Not to me. It's just like insult. Make the kid pass out. I can get some, you know, some time to myself. He just isn't trying to, like, I don't know, like, he just doesn't know what to do. So, yeah, I think that's a big part of it, too, is that he doesn't know how to handle it. So it's easier to not. Mm hmm. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Send him off to San Francisco. Interesting that we faded out there too. Black. I don't have the check myself, but it's one of the few times the movie's done. Then that's deliberate. And we cut into this chaos because things have changed. This is. This will be a thing, of course, with the introduction of the brother. Oh, yeah. The dynamic to poor H.W. was H.W. stand for. What do you think? Harlan Williams Okay, I'll take it. Harlan Harlan Sounds good. You know, that is right now he's an actor who. Williams What is he been in have picked on. So sorry. I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, wow. Forgive me. He's a senior comedian. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Okay. Man okay. That's right. The real original Rocketman. Not that Elton John rip off. Yeah, right, Right. Dan thief. But even there now, he's showing us like, okay, we had three wells set up. So no matter how how much time has passed, there's three here now, but no one's, you know, slamming that down our throats. Just you kind of have to track that in Rocketman. Still hold up. I haven't seen it in years. I must say. Do yourself a favor. Oh, watch it. To give it a double feature, There will be blood followed the rocket, Man. That'd be thrilling. I'm sure. Two masterpieces back to back is one of the few times we kind of adopt H W's point of view. And, you know, Ken does in terms of not being able to hear it, it's really effective because, I mean, just imagine that you can like having one, two, boom in an instant, then you can't you lose one of your senses like that. No, I don't want to die. There are it's not really sending the best message to like the deaf and hard of hearing community. Like I'd rather die. We all have to deal with life with what it gives us. And he does he? I mean, he's having he's having a hard time with it now. But we see that he comes out okay. He's probably the happiest person when this movie ends like, thank God, I know that fucking asshole doesn't have to be my life anymore. I mean, I suppose I mean, I've been heartbroken by it, but, you know, I'm going to Mexico with my wife. Yeah, this is great. Really thinking. What's his name? Goddammit. It really shows how good of, like, a right hand man or assistant Fletcher is because he kind of always knows what Daniels talking about. You know, he's going to fill in the gaps here, but they're talking about but again, the staging we don't know who he's talking to. Yeah, I just I love that. And we're going to cut out a little bit and see it's Fletcher here. But when he hands in the check, it's like the same thing he did when he was heading that Eli's cross. He doesn't look at him. Yeah, these are all questions. Culpability. Yeah. So you can. It's. You know, it's eating at him. Yeah. Yes. I was going to say, like, it's troubling him. It's eating at him. I also love it says so much about him, so much about Daniel. Plain view that the first thing he wants to know when Fletcher gets back is how big is his room? Mm hmm. That's. That's what's important. He seems shocked that he's sharing with another boy. It's like, Oh, how big is the room? Okay, this, this, this. Right, right here is kind of weird. Yeah. When you're asking, like, where are they going to do with all of it? Well, that's what I meant. They were creating like little ponds, little pools of it. But then, you know, I guess they fill barrels here and then, you know, look at all that and he's walking right through it. He's not walking through it. He's walking around it. Walking right through. No, he's not. He would be covered in it's like Jesus now Jesus walks through oil now. Yeah. Oh, this is great. I mean, these are real slaps. Yeah. Yeah. Real showdown. This is. I really give a lot of credit to Paul Dano here because at the end of the day, this is a dude being slapped over and over and having his face like in mud. And yeah, it's kind of been a fun day to shoot for him. That standoff. I'd be honored. It hurts to get slapped in the face. Yeah I think it it hurt more almost that it punch and he just keeps doing it over and over. Don't you have a bad deal? Yeah, I think that slap would hurt. Is that. What do you mean by deal? Oh, you mean you would like that he did it? I mean, yeah. There's not too many people who've been slapped idle. So. Yeah, fine. Achievement. Yeah, I like that. That's a good point. There it is. There's a money. They're both doubling down on everything. Everything. Perfect. Scream two. Yeah. You know, I've heard some men scream like that. Just that it's so real. It's so authentic. It tells them right here. I mean, we get the end of the movie right here. I'm going to bury you, going to bury you underground. And so what he does is, is that it's so just, you know, ultimately his hair and his face and it don't don't even try it. It's because he goes covering his mouth with it. Yeah. Get underground. Yeah. You gotta to wonder what the men are thinking. Like, at what point do we get involved Because this dude could also, like, try to kill me too. So at what point? And then a great it's a really good old nerdy like a subtle, not a psychology that he now Eli will go do the same exact thing to his dad. Yeah it was just done with, you know, because people who are bullied often bully. Yeah, I love that he hasn't gotten cleaned up. He's just. He's living with it. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, too, is like, he knows that if he's going to continue this fight, which he is, he can't best him physically. And there is definitely, you know, in that machismo head, like like even if he knows that, he knows where his strengths are being proven, it's like, oh, well, you just you just treated me like that, right? He got me so that is not an area I can win on. But you got to wonder, like, does this dude if, if plaintiff you just gave him five grand, which like now is it's a lot of money in this time, but it's not a lot of money to Daniel Plainview would he like, just like, leave me alone. Would you go away? You know, you got to wonder, like, just every time. Then if you give him the five grand, every time he comes bothers you. Be like, Leave me alone, preacher man, are you? I don't know. I think to some degree it would. But he's not going to do that. He's not going to give him money. Yes. He doesn't like him. Yeah. And now we're going to get a callback to for the first time to Paul. Yeah. With this clear disdain. Oh Eli has for him the two times Paul is brought up to Eli. Well, he's bringing him up now. And then Plainview brings him up in the bowling alley, and he doesn't. Not like it. Don't talk about, you know, don't. So the dynamic there is it's just always been interesting to me. One of the things that, you know, we have to assume about the movie, create our own little world for it. I don't know. I love the way Daniel holds his hand like that over his face. You think he's going to hit him or smack him? Oh, yeah. I saw Paul Dano do a production of True West. Oh, yeah, alongside Ethan Hawke in New York. And, I don't know, I just thought of this. There is like, this moment that that Paul Dano did on stage where Ethan Hawke said something or was just behaving a certain way, and Paul Dano's character just hated it. So they were away from each other on stage. But Paul Dana literally like grabbed his frustration with Ethan Hawke in the air, like similar to the ghost that he was kicking out of the room, right? And Literally grabbed it and then like, threw it outside the room, like, like I'm taking this energy that I don't want to deal with it. Out it goes. And I always it was a very, very cool thing to physically capture on stage, but I think it just kind of shows like they like Paul Dano is just a really, really good actor that can kind of just play and and trust that whatever choice he wants to make is going to take him somewhere interesting. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Good call. There's a great match cut there of the brother walking from behind. And then we match. Cut to Daniel. We're walking behind him. It's a love that. And then the skepticism here. This is this whole thing with the brother is so fascinating. It's so interesting, and you have to pay attention. But this the only time we really learn anything about Daniel playing the young and that he's from Wisconsin, so has a sister there, as was Doheny, by the way, from the same town. They're going to mention. And I mean, what is his relationship like with its sister? They get along. I don't know. He doesn't seem bothered at all that his dad is dying, you know? Yeah. He's like this letter. But what it's like, it's like this. Okay, good. Now I have another. Another second chance. I have a partner, and he's. He's my blood because I know my son isn't my blood. You know, I know that in my heart. And that seems important to him now. I got it. So now I can get this. I bring this up because I do think when he kills Guy kills the brother, that's kind of like it's done for him, you know? Yeah, he has crossed the line because we haven't seen him kill anyone yet and he's crossed over to like, I see the worst in people. I want no one to succeed like that. It's really it's kind of hammering home that there's just nothing. It's all bullshit. Pointless. Like, I don't have any real family around me. Just got to go back to the greed. It's almost as if he's willing to, like, have this happen. Like, he. He's. Yeah, Yeah. He leans it more than anything else, but then once he's realized what it is. Yeah, it's a complete. All right. That's the last time. Yeah. There is a there's some skepticism here and you can almost see when he like gives up the skepticism, it doesn't last long. And then by the time they make it to that ocean and then he starts, you know, testing the Peachtree dance. Yeah. It's like, okay, I got you. But for the moments when he really thinks he's his brother, there's like a camaraderie that I think he's probably never felt. He's probably never gotten along this well or, you know, attempted to get along. This will certainly be someone he's related to. So, no, we're also great. What He refuses, you know, to answer. Yeah. Anything about the mother because he doesn't you know, I don't want to talk about those things. Yeah. Because she didn't exist. Do you think this guy deserved to die or was it a bit, you know, over the top? Yeah. I take into account the time period. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Well, I mean, I mean, it was, you know, I mean, people kill each other for reasons back in the day. They do. For reasons now. Dumb reasons. Yeah, dumb reasons. But, I mean, it was. It was. I mean, there's the world of us in the 1900s and everything, So we kind of grew out of that. But yeah, Old West type. No. Yeah, but yeah, when you're that's just it's gotten the better of him and he's so pissed that like life has let him down this way that he can't. You just don't I mean people kill each other over a matter of $80. Yeah, I you, we're not talking about those murders. I'm talking about the What did this movie do? You know, I think it makes sense for Daniel plain for you to do it. It seems like a harsh overreaction, I'll say, because the dude is dead. That's true. That's true. He buries him underground. Do you know what that was movie I was referencing? I said no. Back to the future. Three, three. He killed the Old West. Oh, dollars. Yeah, Yeah. I've seen three least for sure. Look how much whiskey he just put into that. Like a ton for a little kid. I think whiskey milk is good luck if I know one way to find liquor in years. Man, I don't drink that. But I don't. I don't, I. Yeah, I'm not a big drinker. It was probably. Maybe it was a common drink back then because milk was easy to get. It's like goat's milk. Yeah, just drink it. I don't know. The objective here is to, like, make him pass out because I feel like someone that small with that much alcohol would pass out, you know, get a good night's rest. Yeah. Yeah, That's all we did. Good. Expensive. That's all we need. This kid's really just down in it, too. Yeah. I mean, they probably took the whiskey, you know? You would hope so. Make it real fast. Kid is amazing. I mean, we could talk about him. I mean, you know, they just plucked him out. He was an unknown. He'd never been in anything. Has not been in anything since. We just have this kid. He's ugly. He's ugly. He goes silent. Really? DB I never said he was ugly. The IMDB picture, I think the way he's standing is a on of his what you were trying to say. I'm trying to say it's weird. There's a Prada and Marfa, Texas. That's what I'm trying to say. You're a locust now. You are you know you are interesting. We don't seem to smoke too many times like early in the movie. By the end, he's got the cigaret holder. You know, this makes you my competitor. But it's I at this point, like I know I mentioned we're starting to get a sense like the drinking and stuff, but his vices aren't really coming in like no, I mean, the vice of greed. Yes. The anger, Yes. But the vices of, you know, tobacco, alcohol, whiskey, whatever, women certainly is not a factor. Those aren't really coming in yet. I'm trying to remember. I think those really make a announce themselves more clearly after he kills this dude. Then that's, you know. Well, it's it's I've always kind of felt like Peeta, you know, he's got these, like, descends into madness, as I always like to say. And I mean that's really what this is. Sure. Sure. Each little thing just it more and more and more and more. And it makes the vices worse, which furthers the descent, the costume design. Just the way like his shirt is tucked into annuals. I mean, I don't know, in his posture with it. I hope it goes just just, you know, be straight with me. If you say you want to stay and you need work. Okay, Well, that my brother. I'll take care of you. Well, he's put it. He puts a lot of stock into that right away. You know, if it's in you, if it's in meat. Yeah. Yeah. You really that could be maybe a play on that title as well. Like, this is this is the only time he thinks in the movie that he has a blood relative next to him, you know, And I think that it clearly means something for him and even the way he speaks about when we get to that scene about the peach tree and like the way that he speaks about his childhood, there is some fun remnant. That's what's so compelling. It's so true. He's like, Yeah, get him liquored up. Taken to the Peach Tree dance. He's never he never goes, I don't want to talk about those things in terms of that past, in terms of like the teenage years. There's a prequel for you. What the hell is that like in the late 1800s? Young Daniel Plainview. Do you think he'll will ever do another movie? He stuck through pretty well. So far. Yeah. We've we've even we talked about this in the detail pod that I could see him coming back when he's like 84, like a ten or 20 minute role in something for a really, really good director. Maybe. Maybe Scorsese, maybe PTA, someone he's worked with before. And it'll be like a small part because this dude only does leading parts, you know, and that I could see over in ten years. He's, you know, can play like an FDR. So I don't know could see I could see that I think what if what if he was the lead in Quentin Tarantino's choices? You know, he wanted the role of Vic Vega. It's the of Vincent Vega. It's the only role. He's doubled it publicly and actively gone after Daniel Day. Lewis wanted the Travolta part, and I believe him and Tarantino meant and Tarantino said, that's already Michael Madsen's part because it well, it's that was originally supposed to be Madsen in it. Madsen turned it down to work on Wyatt Earp. Whoa. Yeah, that. But mean, how'd that go for you? So Travolta was his second choice. He gets it. But imagine DDL is Vincent Vega. Oh, but you're blowing. You're blowing my mind. Imagine if they do that. Tarantino was like, is my last one, regardless of retirement. Yeah. Should I be? And then imagine if you had, like, a lot of humor to him. If it was like, an outwardly funny thing, that would be crazy. Because he's funny. He is funny and that would be a way that we've never seen it. We've never seen that type of edge that Tarantino just has. Right stuff. Steidl is always very sophisticated in his even his unsophisticated is this is is and I mean, we haven't even talked about the scene but this is a very important one in terms of you know, he has his brother here. So now he can finally talk about stuff. He feels comfortable doing it. But this is most insight we get into him. And I think everything he says here is just true. I think he does see the worst in people. I don't think he likes much of anyone. I think this is his most drunk with a teeth stained teeth. When he breaks out of this laugh, it doesn't make sense. Like slapping. But why? That's what I love. We just don't know where all this anger and rage and ire comes from. But wow, it's there. Yeah, he definitely feels like he has a second breath, but there's some a piece. It's like one of the few genuine laughs, you know? And his brother, like, does not find this funny, I think. I think he's probably like, What the hell am I in too deep? Yeah, that's A That's an amazing shot. Knowing that the the flame from the match is going to light his face, just seeing that so subtle blue on his back. I love that. Yeah. I don't think Henry knows what to do either. He's kind of like, Okay, well, I mean it. And this is. It's a big fuck you from HWB here. Yeah, yeah. Screw this guy. That's why I used to be my bed, man. But it's a big fuck you for me to be over here like it's going to fire. I'm just going to sit the whole house on fire. Then you're going to use houses on fire. And that that was just. Oh, that was oil that he had that little stream over, like it looked like gas. But I think. Well, I mean, he's not dumb. The kid knows what he's doing is rather like a vacuum is an oil man. Yeah, the run. And then he stops and then he, like, goes into a sprint. I, I love that. Yeah. It also shows it like there's so many movies where kids are outrunning adults and that's just not like it wouldn't really happen to real life. The strides that adults have, you just be able to catch up to a kid, but he doesn't come in, hit him and hurt him, just grabs him. This punishment is going to be getting the fuck out of town. Yeah Yeah, I mean, this was really this was the impetus. This. I think this makes up Daniel's mind. Yeah. I don't know what to do. And I can't. I can't have you blowing up my house now. He's an active problem. Before, he was like he was genuine. I mean, it made him money. He was a useful addition to the plain view empire, but now he's causing trouble. And you can't have that because it'll delay things. But I love that they stayed with that the whole time is. Yeah, it's just let it all play out. Well, it kind of mirrors the shot with the baby, you know, It's kind of. Yeah, they're not all the way in the back of the train like they were there, but it's definitely a callback and he like, he's like, this is not easy for him. He's tortured. We see it on his face. He's just like mumbling indiscriminately to himself as he, you know, exits the train. I will say, Daniel, you didn't really plan this one, right? You should have, like, parked like, not in the direction that the train is going to go. So, yeah, it makes for a good shot. But think about a park that a little further down the street, the dirt road. Yeah. I mean, not even like communicating like this. This isn't. This isn't working. Have to send you somewhere and. And you will come back. You're not going to San Francisco forever. Like, I don't know how long he's gone. A couple months, a year, whatever. But just telling him that pretty. Pretty fucking traumatic to just have your dad, like, abandoned you on a train and dead. Oh, Sister comes in like, pins you down. But if you were walking the other direction, Daniel, you wouldn't be faced with this awkward moment. That's okay. Oh, look at him. Yeah, he's. He's pained. He doesn't like it. I love that. It's the. The murmuring, the mumbling. This is great. You just feel all of it. Abandoned my child. He means that when he says it only gets to. That's the only thing he means there. He doesn't like that. He's saying that obviously he might be thinking, I'm going to kill this asshole. It's making me say this in 20 years or whatever it is. Ten years? Yeah. Look at that guy. That's terrible. Yeah, but again, I mean, there were some talks about what do we do? You know, what do we do with H.W.? But that says more than any word could. Yeah. Sending him away is my guy. He recovered. He left us. But I'm not. God, that's not what I'm going to do. Jurassic Park. You got to, motherfucker. I'm glad. I'm glad we had that. Yeah. I mean, you're, like, referencing half baked and Back to the Future three. Those are deep, deep cuts. Yeah, I'm going. Oh, I could. Do you two, son. You're going for some. I could go in for some stupid sit here and try to stump your ass. There will be blood commentary, but tell you, I apologize. I love this guy. That was a mr. Z and blond. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. His a brief role in the Master, too. He comes arrest them. He's the one that takes them to jail for walking in, like flips out and breaks the toilet, everything. But he shows up. I got to love how? Just so Coyote Hills is what he was talking about in the very beginning. You know that it's paying me$5,000 a week. So he just sold that, which is interesting. It happens very fast. Now they're like, Ah, he gives a little Boston wants fingers. He just hates this guy so much. So all that bad shit he's feeling about his, you know, his kid, he's going to take it on. Yeah. Take it out on this guy. It's like your throat. Jesus. Yeah. What else? His reaction is Furbys, What? Take care of your boy. Oh, wrong thing to say. Look at that. Look. You know, you, like, done here. Like discussions are done now. He's like, should I, should I slit his throat now or should I just threaten him? Like, that's kind of what's, you know, playing out like the commando over your performance, like he has right there to, like, not be reactive, even though, like, he internalized all that and took his time because that that's the one thing that he could have said that's like the nail, like Nathanael. But the raw wound, of course, to I don't think his nose has ever been put to better use. And it isn't here I think because you know that crooked nose he must have I don't know, broken it once or twice. But the hat with the mustache really brings a nose out. Nice. Like it. It just shows like he's been through a lot, you know what I'm saying? Been a few scraps and not allowed to talk about man's nose releases. His nose? Well, in this movie. No, no, I'm not saying he uses it. Well, I'm saying it's accent. Well, I don't notice his nose in Phantom thread because he doesn't have mustache. It's true. Well, he's also looks different in every single movie. He does. He does. Even though he doesn't, like wear prosthetic makeup. It's not like that. He just looks different. No, he just looks different in everything. That's just that. That's the chameleon, that long hair and in the name of the father. And yeah, he looks completely different in both of those movies. He's still is clean shaven, just different hair. So I even see him in real life. I go, Oh, that's what you really look like. You've seen him in real life. Oh, yeah. When all the interviews. But like, in person. Yeah, like when? Like when he's, like, accepting his Academy Awards. You're not there at the fucking Oscars and watching him in his real life, I'm like it. Like he's not in a character. Like, I knew someone who saw him in New York trying to like he was taking a couch out of the truck and like, going to bring it up. And my friend asked him if he needed help. He was like, No, I'm okay. I'll go. It's really just making it up. I'll see what I can do, though. So Henry didn't say a word there? Yeah, You know, he has no idea what to do. Yeah, this is great. Don't be thick in front of me. No, Alvin, do anything wrong. Dude, Ali's told you twice about the band you track like he's told you and you ignored it, and now you just insult. Yeah. This the band he tracked? What does he say? He's like my wife, The Tramp. One of the categories. Billy Madison. Yeah. Yeah, my wife. The real or my wife is a transvestite, and my wife is a tramp. It's a great blind delivery of me, Al. We never say that anymore. Don't be thick. Don't be thick in front of me. Notice here you get a little is a little line of dialog with a Fletcher like you. You really taken Henry to me? Union oil. I dislike that there's someone is showing suspicion. Yeah. Yeah. Because Daniel Plainview hates most people and is suspicious of all things but for some reason it's got. Yeah, yeah, it's blood. He can let his guard down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's your first question. Did he get there safely That he was he crying the whole time. Yeah. He's like, what? Look, still double down. Same question. That's great writing. No, that's great. Yeah. To write. Yeah, that. That's what he's asking because that it really just shows you that. Well it is great writing because it's. Yeah. Like if you really kind of, kind of forget about the, I guess the obviousness of what one would say and think about little bit deeper right. Like what would you actually bring up it that specificity to yourself? Like let's get real. Like what what what's the most interesting and what's the like? Yeah, you just really have to kind of think a little bit deeper when you're a writer about writing a dialog like that. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Because it says a lot about who that character is. Yeah. I love it when he goes. I believe I'll talk to him about that. And then he spits, you know, spit in. Back in the day that they spit in on the land is great to how you just like surveys the house and is still staring at him like this kid lives here. Plainview doesn't live here exactly like he lives here. Just so sit down, you know, slam it down stakes in his yard and ask me to do that. So, I mean, stakes over the head of the call. Now we're going to get this is just like this is pure PTA showing us. I like good cinematography and good music. Here you go. Yeah. Some of these shots, this montage is just incredible. I never bored during it. I've you know, I've heard people like maybe it lags a little bit with Henry. I don't agree with that. I don't even fully know what the hell they're doing here, honestly. I mean, it's, I guess to, like, see how far the pipeline would go. I don't know. I know it has to do with the pipeline, but like measuring everything through that, I don't know what like that eyepiece means. Dun matter. I think he said it was 50 miles to the ocean. I think that's what they're doing on this journey here. There's a lot on horseback, you know, that's that's a lot. It's no joke. I wouldn't do it. Well, you're not an oil man. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're not around. But if I was, still wouldn't do it. And how are you going to make money? It's 2.0, yeah, but this bond that they're creating, it's just it really is a fascinating aspect of movie that he lets his guard down so much for him. And then clearly based on that, has this like I said, over could be an overreaction. I suppose it's up to each viewer. Music's just such a highlight here. It's crazy. This is an original piece of music for a movie like it. I don't know. It just sounds so unique. I can only imagine Petey in the editing room is like working with all this. It's like, Yeah, yeah. Oh, that ocean shot. Yeah. It's like, there it is. It is. With this music and it all coming together. That's crazy. Yeah. Table right on the table. That in question. He seems pretty hammered here. Yeah, but the ocean. Yeah. Well yeah. Yes it is. You made a good call earlier about how he does kind of recall some of these family memories with fondness and there's not a lot of disdain like, you know, but he still kind of. I love that. Look, when the wave just kind of comes up over him and he's really studying him. I know. I got your number, buddy. I mean, at some point, like, Henry doesn't seem like the brightest guy anywhere. And at some point, dude, you just kind of know, like, the jig is going to be up. Oh, you're not going to be able to fill in these details. So then that's why you get this little test, Peachtree, to get these shots of them on the beach are really cool, too, the way they're sitting. Like when we cut back of that. Yeah, right there. You want to have children. And it's interesting what he talked about. So maybe he actually couldn't, you know, maybe it did not work. I don't know. It's even right there. He's admitting, like, the things I used to love and find appreciation, and I just don't anymore make me sick. Yeah, that's all Henry wants to do. Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of interesting that Henry seems like a little over in this moment. Like he's not. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Oh, yeah, Right. Huh? Got your number now. Is making it up the first. Like it didn't just occurred to him. No, it is right now. Yeah. The greatest special effect is watching an actor change their mind. Always forget said it. It was some director, But now it is who suspicion. And it's not even like he gave himself away. But there was just enough of a non for that to garner suspicion. And he's already I love that shot I think they basically painting a famous painting Can it now because because that's the thing like he like swims in pants and was sucked I know the times did things better like those singlets that guys used to wear. Yeah you still see those in like, weird thing. Yeah. Weird. Well, I mean, I don't think that choice was either probably this or naked. And that would've been weird for the movie. I mean, the master kind of gets there with its beach scenes. Oh, that's just so great, the way they shot that. This is fantastic composition. It looks this looks like to me it belongs in like a movie from the forties. Yeah. And just the way it's lit we focus on the now. Yeah. Now the distance here. Now it's here. Yeah. Go take your money is the last time you're ever going to have fun. Now, do you think he his do you think he officially knows right now or do you think that the fact that the suspicion is up for him so much that because he's going to find out, do you where do you think his heads and just in your opinion? I think his head is he's studying him very carefully. And with each passing minute, he's going, this is not my blood. This is not more and more like this. Things are not adding up. This is not my blood. And I'm going to give this asshole one more chance to prove that he is indeed related to me. And if he fails that chance in the head, the bullet will go. Whoa, Jesus. Well, I'm not doing it. Well, I'm just telling you what he's thinking. That's what I think. All right, then. I mean, you know, I think here is I think here he's probably at 95%, and it's just giving him the benefit of the doubt for that extra 5%. Like, who is this? I don't know, though. And then we see him cry, which he never does see him. You know, he buries him and he breaks down, cries on very important. Yeah. And you had to note sometimes something like this is going to come down. You didn't. I can just go oh that quickly. When he stumbles he goes who are the know? And it's good that he comes clean though. I mean, why even delay it? And then another reason for these tears, he could be genuinely upset that he did indeed have a brother and then, you know, never got to meet him. And he was just there in New Mexico or wherever it was. Yeah, I think that messes with him a lot. Yeah. Because now there's no one left. Daddy's dead, though. And that's again, the idea. Yep. I mean, you could ask another question, like, could Henry have killed it, you know? Yeah. Could he have killed the brother to try to get this end? Figured out? He says he dies. Tuberculosis. I think. Which, you know, he could just be making up. I don't know. I used to be, like a killer. Yeah, that's a good point. He did say he's done a lot of bad stuff. Yeah, I. I'm just saying, that's like a read people could have on it, but I think it's all true there. I think everything has the truth now because that how quick he was able to give himself away. I feel like this is just all him coming clean. Yeah. Right in the head. We have each other. It's like brutal though. And he digs a grave. Pay attention to how little he cares for the body as he's throwing him in the grave like he doesn't care. It's like waste. It's like trash. So, dude, you know, like a guy. The people's eyes, Bob, who? He studies Eli a certain way after he hits him with the rolling pin, you know, he's, like, kind of studying him. Kind of like a hunter would watch to make sure, like, the animal that is shot is dying. Don't know. It's very good death right here. Being serious. Someone just got shot right in the head. Is still moving in alive. Yeah, that's uncommon, especially for low caliber pistols. If that was like a 22 that, you know, there's been stories of people who've gotten shot in the head with 20 tattoos and lived. So he he there could be a little bit of a struggle, which would have been a bad way to go. 21, 22, whatever it takes over takes. Mr. Mom has to keep going. She only had to dig it. Next time you need to dig a hole or grave. Watch this one. Good way to do it. You use the pickax first chip away, and then I like if you just want to watch. And I had to do anything the proper way is just watch. It is you figure out details. Ever done it in a movie and be like, All right, well, this is the way you do it. Secondly, I don't think he's ever done that. You have a hard time figuring out never in any movie. There was one you said when we were doing his pod was like one of the rare moments he ever get down. Yeah, I'm sure it's in. It's in something like, Oh, yeah. The Unbearable Lightness of Being. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was early in his career. Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't know. But you see what he did there? He just, like, cast the. He didn't even lay him down straight. He cast the foot aside, like he just doesn't care about any of it, you know? Do it. Okay. Right. Long movie. I've seen it, like, twice. I don't think that's a part of his career that really ever interested him the in the journal and the send him it's that that sends him to tears not the killing not anything like that. Also interesting telling that Bandy is very clearly aware that this dude is just killed someone and buried them right there. He even he kind of gives a nod over to like the grave and still, you know, all you have to do is accept the blood and I will give you the pipeline. Yeah. We never seem like this is the only time where he's so emotional. No, it sounds like H.W. kind of does. That's a good point. Even though they're not related, it's getting hammered. See, it's always it's always. I mean, I guess I see it, but I always feel like if I'm in like, that much of an emotional state like that far in drinking, this is never going to do it. There's never going to be a good idea for it. Yeah, I mean, but if you're on your way to being a full blown alcoholic. Well, what's that from a movie? He's one step away from being a full blown alcoholic. Yeah, that is. What is that? Die hard with the vengeance talent. But, yeah, I love the way he plays this. When he's woken up, you know, hung over, scared or a little, like, off guard. Yeah. Yes. Oh, no. He does not look good at all, you know? Yeah. What? Oh, look. What you referring to Your red eyes when I open. But he tries to be strong. He tried so hard. Factionalism. Yuck. Because it's absolutely right. This guy's great face. Look at that. Yep. Yep, that's right. Yes, I know. So before my friend. Oh, it's great. I mean, he's. You just got him dead to rights. But in here, we're going to learn. You've already learned so much about Daniel Plainview. But here it's like, okay, I'll go do this little song dance. It's going to take a couple of minutes and then I get in my pipeline, so I'll do it. It's, you know, there's just no regard for religion, for anything I love that he, like, sees through the hustle. Yeah I think it's so interesting that he I believe, is aware that like you know there's a recent grief like right next him now I remember people kind of laughing every time I saw was in the theater like there was a little chuckle because, you know that's the worst thing he was here like he there's nothing worse than that. I have been there and everything. Okay. Oh, my God. That's. Oh, yeah, Keep going. I'm not doing it. Oh, for what you've done. And that's what it is. I said, no drilling. He's like, No one. What a great scene. So this is like the Oscar clip scene coming up, You know, of course, Abandon my Child. It's interesting that he was taking on off him, you know, while he was sleeping. And it's interesting that, like, you're willing to wipe away a murder. Yeah, you can all be forgiven. And I know you just killed this guy. I just go to the church of the third revelation, and it'll all be okay. That's all you got to do. If that. Then you can't wait for him to. You're like, Well, I mean, he literally has me dead to right here. Like, you know, this could be bad, so. All right, I'll just go do this. Whatever. What a day. Yeah, what a day this is going to be. I would hope it wasn't the same day. And he'd needs. He needs to work off the hangover. Sleep it off. He definitely looks better. Clean shaven in the church and everything. Good. I love that. Just holding on that the in his voice over coming up because it's so perfect it's a perfect way you know Eli's happier in that pig and shit. Yeah this is it's like this is it He gets it's payback. Yeah. Otherwise slaps do absolutely nothing. The Daniel Andrews like. Oh, okay. Ooh. But yeah now he saw. Now it's in, he's in command, he's in charge. And you can see like the renovations have been done in the church with no help from Mr. Playing. No thanks to Daniel Plainview. I love that. How He just doesn't. He's, like, so spaced out. I'll ask again. Yeah, It's like he's so happy. Oh, yeah, he's. He's perfect. Like, he's got a little sore arm here, too. Yeah. Yes. And the deliveries that he takes throughout to. Oh, God, this is so good. What do you think of Backsliders? I won't never backslide. Oh, backsliding. That's. That's like somebody who basically back on what they say. Yeah. Or. Yeah, like that. Like that makes sense or not. You need to go back on what they say. But if they've if they've done something better or they something good and then they backslide to reverting to a way of a behavior or something that's not becoming of what they've reached. Hmm. Hmm. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. I just love that they emphasize that. It's also one of my favorite names for a wrestling move. Oh, cool. Excellent. All right, all right. Learn more every day. Yeah. That deal isn't the look he gives. Honestly, Look, he gives Eli when he has to say, I've been on my child. Yeah, it's to me, it's like I'm going to find Kelly someday. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly it. I I'm not going to make it my sole mission in life, but if it just falls into my lap, then I'm going to do it. And he, you know, he uses this tactic against Eli in the bowling alley like it meant that you are false for the game here. You know, back there, guns saying that he means it's to it's not easy because his veins is four inches. It's my name wrong. Yeah that's what Molly's game. You know, The Crucible. I'm kidding. I mean, the block. Dude, let's get this over with. I love it. There you go. Yeah, He's like a muse. Yeah. Now he's just completely. Yeah, the way you, like shakes off the water rule. Yeah. All right, here's a good question. You know, coming up, when all this is done, he's going to shake his hand and say something to him. And Eli gives a little smile. Won the world. Do you think it's communicated they're not to watch Washington. Yeah, because he does a little smile that almost to me seems like he's trying to be polite for the other attendees. But yeah, he goes he kind of goes back to like that was but I love that we don't know I love that they don't show us there's hope That's that's You got it, buddy. That's all he wanted Trouble with the knee, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Watch here. I've always wondered because there's a little smile, but then he reverts very quickly and, like, head down. I don't know. And I, like, still look at him. He doesn't want any attention. Like, that's so rare. I like. I think it was actually probably something that Eli would have wanted to hear. I don't know what it could be like. Maybe like, thank you for all that you've done, or maybe it could be that. And that's why they don't let us hear it. Because, you know, he never gives him praise because he's going along with everything here. Hmm. That's enough now. It's enough praise for this man. And I love the way Mary just comes up behind him. I think he really cares about her. You know, I've always thought that. Well, he seems to have, like, a somewhat he has a an allowance or a tolerance for children. Yeah, that's it's an interesting point because he he does. And it's like, I don't know, maybe there's something about their innocence that he likes. Yeah. This, this was a scene I referenced a while ago. That sound was, was so important to me because we're so far away from H.W. and Daniel. When H.W. comes back, it's like how they do that, how they get that sound. That does me good, a big fuck you from, you know, it's like you've made me laugh. I'm always thick of that now. He knew Henry wasn't his uncle. This is for a lot of things. Yeah, but all one shot here and. Yeah. Oh, that. His knees, like, kind of getting worse as the movie goes on. Could not have been easy because, you know, they film movies out of order. So he would have to track all that as he's going. He's a master tracker. Yes, he is. That does me good. I love this also want to give a huge shout out to H W's fighting skills, which are going to be pretty too, because he he connects with a strong right strong right hook and then immediately goes for two body shots, like on a grown man. It's awesome eye to body shot uppercuts. Kids got talent he's got a future like is I love how far away that's what I mean I love that And I remember thinking like, how did they get that sound? And then doing all this research of different microphones you can use. I mean, of course you could ADR this and do it later. But I wonder Earth DDL is big into the ADR. Someone tell me No, that's when you, you know, record lines of dialog because something happened on the day so you come later after that it's done You telling me that or you telling the people? I'm telling the people that I know, you know that we've done it on the movies right now. That's all he cares about. It's pipeline to share it with you, son. Yeah. This is ours. It always has been. But it's all been one shot, too. Like since we got into this, it's all been one shot. It's incredible. So, like, bright and desaturated, the color palette is really, really cool in this because sometimes it can be a little more colorful, but you just feel like the heat in the light. Like, I watch this, but it's going to get it right. Hooking in to body shots. I mean, I don't think that's very effective. Yeah. Oh, God. Lovely. Since the old times says it watches decent hit body body. Then go for the basic. He's got a little combination and a four combination know like everybody's put it That was you. I'll give you that one. Yeah I'll give you those. That's cool. But then how long do you think he was going. Will they stop giving years. Yeah. I mean they give years when we get to Little Boston in 1911 I believe. And then, and, and then it's 1922 when they're going to going by the timeline that the movie is giving us. This must all be within the year. The whole movie. No. Well, everything that's been going on. Why? Because the movie's very specific about the timeline of when things are happening and because we have not really moved on from 1911, they've not us. Another year. I see what you're saying. So you're saying he he's basically once we're introduced to a new year, he's keeping a tight narrative from there and just, okay, I can feel it, oddly enough, because I always think about these things. I've never I've never thought much about that in relation to this movie. But that's yeah, I could see that. And I definitely some time is passing because it would take it would take time to dig, you know, drill and then there's three barracks. But you know, like this restaurant probably wasn't even here before Daniel Plainview came to town. They probably didn't even have this like a bar. Do we do we ever get it in our time stamps for years as the movie? I think we do, yeah. One more. When each of you is getting married to marry and I believe it's 1922, so. And that's the last one. Okay. Yes. So even by that measure, that's within ten years. So either this is all happening in the same year or this is all happening in the span of ten years, I think I think some I think it's fair to look at it as both if we are doing is ten years covering H.W. at age lot 89 you know so yeah I think he's probably in San Francisco a couple months, maybe a year or something like that summer, which would not been difficult to park. So route to look at it, look at the way that Telford's playing it. It's like enjoying it. There's like watching the decision be made him like he's sitting with his anger and there are no drinks before those gentlemen. Then where there's a chance for these people. Yeah, the napkin over the head is God. And I also enjoy how he seems to be off the paper. I'm sorry to cut you off. No, no, no. Yeah, the paper in the foreground. Yeah, It's perfect because it's like connecting us to that table. Yeah, It's like this is where he's going to go. So. So muttering to himself, I love how he when this scene started, he didn't really seem like properly drunk. But then by the time he's addressing Telford, he does seem really drunk. And it's like that, that whether he's kind of playing up his drunkenness and he's not really or I don't know, maybe had a few before he came in the cinema in the shot that you just took. Yeah, I love that on the chair. It you definitely know Telford's afraid of this. Do I wonder how other people view Daniel Plainview? We never really hear anyone talking about him except when Eli saying, you know, you let this man here when he's saying it's able to be like. Like him, like, is he good boss? Oh, I can't. He can be right, you know, like, I don't know. Must be hard. I mean, he sees the worst in people, so we pretty tough to make friends. Excuse me, gentlemen. Excuse him, gentlemen. You pour each of these? Probably. So. I'm confused. There's a great like a outtake. It's very, very fast. I believe it's even on the Blu ray. Oh, yeah. DVD of them. Him kind of breaking in the scene when they're sitting at the table and he starts to laugh. DDL I mean, it's very, very rare. Yeah, it is. As you know what I was going to do was this He takes a drink is his details best performance. I know we talked about this before, but it is mine. Yeah. Yeah. Same here. Yeah. I mean, thank God. I mean, I remember the Oscars very well this year. No one else was ever, ever mentioned. It was just going to be him. It's going to be his second Oscar. Then it was just it was great kind of it. The shame was that the Oscar narrative became all about Daniel Day-Lewis. And, you know, this movie was not seriously in the running for picture or screenplay. I can tell you all that now. Honestly, it just wasn't. It was always going to be no Country in the Coens. And that's, you know, we've litigated this so much. It would have been great if there we could get of them. Yeah, this, this is a, this performance goes down. It's in my top five. Yeah. It's some good have ever seen any performance I've ever seen. Yeah. There is embodiment of it and then it's a great little final look. He seems almost like whoa, he's leaving. Okay. Yeah. There's, there's a little bit of like, uh. All right, no more big challenge. All right. I guess that was that all I needed to do was take that blood. He's going on a mission. And the thing is, though, like, he's not happy. I don't think he's ever happy. You know, he's never going for is he's happy at the prospect of being rich. Like he's happy when he finds that oil with H.W. is happy when the well bears like all that stuff. Happy building the pipeline. But it's all leading. It's all fueling his greed. Maybe that shot right there is finally like the sunlight on your face. Well, that's that's one of my favorite shots of of the movie, Dustin. I don't know the way that's composed and the lighting is really, really, really strong. Like, maybe I finally crossed to the other side where the things are actually going to get good and they don't. Or at least I don't know. Who knows what happens in the subsequent time between, Yeah, I love this so much. Just watching Mary trying to learn. It's a great hard cut to when you know you're just playing and jumping off that little porch and we've cut right to her hands as an adult. I love it. She looks familiar to you. Grow up to be anybody like, I guess I'm sure she grew up to be someone human being. I don't know if she still acts that so I don't know you. Yeah, well, they turned out ugly. And now I know you said the same thing about her. How dare you? You are saying meet me in person? Disaster. Boo. That I love that. It's a great cut. You know, he's cross faded a lot of times in the movie, and that was just a nice heart. And then that's a perfect like, actor. And also, like, I remember seeing this for the first time and going, Oh, whoa, we just okay, it's like 11, ten, 11 years. Like, okay, what the hell? Oh 27 I was wrong. So. 27 Okay. Like, what the hell are we about to get into? And I remember being, like, on the edge of my seat, like, so this is apparently the Doheny house where they film all this, the the bowling stuff like that. I don't know if that is actually it on the outside, but in the inside it it's just, you know, why this is a great he holds the shot for so long as a nice bit of for foreshadowing so Kubrick all of this here he is. God I love that complete lunacy lunacy just wasted like shooting what looks like expensive things. Yeah. Yeah, I loved it. You know, Fletcher's gone. Lord knows why he left. What led to that? Yep. And we don't need to know. But I think we can gather. That's what I mean. Yeah. And it was also a great time cut right there to buy it, not being through Daniel Plainview. Yeah, Yeah, very true. It's so much cooler to introduce him, you know, give it a few seconds and introduce him this way and let's go and buy it for just stay there for the rest of the movie. Like just crowds. The crowd likes to apologize. Dalmatian. Don't hitting that glass, buddy. Here's to the dog being like, Oh God, my person is just a fucking psychopath. Yeah, the old guy who helps out, He's nice, but yeah, he's a he's a complete loon. And this is, you know, this is What was it all about? What was it all for? You got the money? I imagine you're richer than hell. Maybe this is similar to like that Halsey was describing. You know, with it to his brother, quote unquote. And what's even crazier about all of this is like based off of what we saw before the time cut is like it looks like things were actually going pretty well between H.W. in plain view, like he was back with them. Yeah. Learning, you know, like he it seemed like he had the illness cut out when things are like starting to get a little good, like his enemies leaving, his hands. But yes, on the face of the face, it's all H.W. is getting shacked up with Mary. They're like, things are going well. And of course we can't see that because, yeah, it's not what the hell you would call this a PTM psychosis, psychotic tragedy, some psychotic tragedy. And that that was the shot that made us realize there's another person in the room. So back to that, kind of like the revealing the blues and the yellows in this, he's really good about having true colors on screen, often like there will be some yellow or blue usually in each frame. Oh, God, he's so mean here. Like what happened in between this? Yeah, because it's got to be more than just makes you my competitor. Yeah, like it's not. There's. Yeah, there's just a growing disdain, but he's like, Yeah, tell me where you've been is look at that. Yeah. Like, like this. You are, you are a waste. That's how I look in at that is Yeah it's perfect Cigaret holder he looks like hell is poor translator like God is. So we put in such a tough position he has to translate this really nasty stuff between father and son all because daddy here won't learn sign language Yeah refused he never he's clearly never committed any time at all to learning it or boy this is this is the breaking point. Everything comes crashing down and he's done with the lie. He's got enough money. It's interesting that he, you know, followed in Daniel's footsteps doing drilling was the only thing he ever knew. Right? Right. Yeah. Just the growl. The guy's pure evil now is all you can see is the one I. Oh, that's it. Once you're going to try to go up against me, I'm going to throw throw the truth in your face. Almost. What's even like sadder is how the H.W. says, like, good like this makes me. I'm so glad that I'm not, you know, related to, you know, it's. Yeah, well, yeah, he's really turned a corner here and it's just full on. Mania is nuts. That's a great shot. DeLay is always so sad to me. It wasn't so hard. Dick. It is. Got to, you know, again, be killing the business, hurting me. So, you know, there it is. Hammer's thrown down. But just in seeing this actor receive this information, like, imagine this. This is all like putting it all together and then landing on this is good news to me. Did you ever hear that word or translator? Anything to say about this scene? Kind of just watching it. Yeah, I'm just really I'm just really I'm sorry. I'm just like, I got so caught up in it. Yeah, it's just. It's. It's devastating. There's back this blood thing, like Daniel Plainview. You can know someone if you're not related to them. Like, it's okay, but. Nope. But the thing is, like. But it also gives a little truth. Like he's not a basket because, like, he had father. Like his father just died. Right? Right. This unexplained internet. Yeah. Very mean, mean, euphemism, right? I mean, he's just thrown it right in his face. You're just a sweet by land who? Brutal. No, I didn't expect this. Like, the first time I saw it. I didn't know this would be resolved in this way. No. And then I just remember watching this and going, this is this how it ends? Like your baster in a basket? No, you just. You can't see the bowling alley scene coming. And the awesome power of it, genuinely. One of the best things PETA's put on film and really cool to kind of go back to that one medium shot of H.W. because like the like we got so close, like we started off that way and then we pulling closer and closer, but now we're kind of exiting the scene. So we're removing close we are by pulling further away, right? Yeah, detaching ourselves a little bit because they are clearly feeling a separation between, Yeah, it's all like this stuff has, it's very thought out like the cameras don't just like just don't go up. Yeah. Yeah you don't just if you're that close up right to, to a medium without you trying to express something. Yeah. At least you can hear me on this. It's going to be some consolation. I don't know so much. Yeah. The only time since he's been deaf, he was glad he couldn't hear something the first time in my life. I'm glad I'm dead. Yeah. I can't hear the shitheads. You know what that's from? No. Oh, man. I gotcha again, Van, while I don't. I don't watch these fucking movies. I've seen that movie. Like. Yeah, while there's amazing your references, are we ever going deep today? Oh, this is such a great little movie. Never does this before. Or again, just this little flash of kind of happiness, but not necessarily like overt happiness, you know, just fakes punching him in the gut, then it's a step. But this is clearly one H.W. could still hear and everything was okay. Yeah. I mean, it looks like they're building that first. Well, yeah, Yeah. Where did it all go? Talk about details, postures. Looking at going down the stairs in this next shot. Like the duties. Look at it. Yeah. It's like hardly able to stand, like. Oh, and then what's great is that Paul Dano comes back is like a he's a completely different person. Yeah. Drinking now he the it's it's always been curious to me how there's some emphasis put on he is very good looking when talking about you know Yeah the guy knows I'm like him that's that's can be telling and he's he's clearly made some bad decisions because he's lost all of his money. He's dressed very sharply. But it feels show meaning like insincere the big cross. I don't know. Yeah. You're always trying to say something with the way that he looks at his feet. Right? His head. Yeah. Here's all, you know, nice and proper. It was. It it definitely it defied, like, all my expectations about where this is going to go. And then I know I've talked about this before, but seeing movie for the first time in the theater will always be one of my most memorable movie watching experiences, because my I could feel my pulse. It was like slow and it was like going with the tension of the movie was beating, beating, beating. And then by the end of like, just felt like I'd been in them fight. It was Yeah, so intense is a long scene that goes by fast, though. Like there's, you know, there's still a decent chunk of the movie left in it. We're just in here. We are not going to leave here for the rest of the movie to make and to pull that off. It's yeah, it's very difficult new setting. Like we just had this huge time jump. I makes it drink. I like to mix three drinks. Like when you make three, I know it's going to need to. And if he returns, he rejects it, which is great because he's about to take a nap off his flask here after of course, he just hits himself in the back of the head choice, which is be hungover as shit like the dance. It's just like trying to shuffle. He's like an animal, like he's eating steak that's been on a plate on the ground, like, well, I mean, this is like. I mean, you're talking about, like, full blown alcoholic. I mean, in order to even function for whatever needs to happen now, he needs alcohol. Yeah. He needs a little toot for sure. Oh, my God. Trying to, like, correct himself. I love the limp so bad. Now. And like, you think back to, like, how did he have to where do you have to get to to fall asleep in the middle of a bowling alley? Yeah, well, I mean, when we see him going down the stairs, that's leading to the bowling alley. Yeah. Yeah. Like, who makes that decision? Like, I'm just going to go here, like, in the middle of, like, lane. It's like, over the gutter. I'm just going to lay my body. Exactly like, when you're Pita, it's sort of like, All right, well, we know that he passes up a where is he going to pass out in the middle of the bowling alley. Yeah, the middle line up. Well in that's, you know, it's kind of hinting we're going to be we're going to go up and down. Yeah, yeah, that's water. And we're going to go up and down those bowling alley, those lanes, the So this what we're about to see begs the question, like, does Eli, does he actually have this firm commitment and faith in God if he's willing to betray his God with words so easily just at the hint of money, I don't know. Doesn't seem like a very moral thing to do. Or a religious thing to do. No, I think I think that's I think it's a great quote. I never question his his faith. But when you're backed up against a corner, I mean, that's how I always took it. No, I think that's fair. He's willing to do with what Daniel Plainview had to do when he came to the church. He needed to do this for a pipeline. Right. So he's going to do that. And I feel like this is Eli's turn. I'll say whatever you say, because you can see how he doesn't want to be as like, tell me you're a false prophet and goes to superstition. Yeah. And it takes him. He has to, like, build it up. Yeah, hold it up. Yeah. Just like I abandoned my child. Yeah, it's. It's like, okay. You know, I always felt that curious. A lot of. Yeah, a little extra emphasis on that. Yeah. Like, what does that mean, any. I mean, he even admits here that God is testing me in all these ways, you know, like what to do. Plainview doesn't give a shit about any of it. So he's just thinking about how to, you know, how can I embarrass him? How I demean him, enjoy this meal? Well, you need something from me. That's right. That's right. It's been like however many years later, maybe 15. I mean, you think that. I don't know. It's so funny to me that he's putting all of his stock for this grand plan to get money on, like a an issue that was resolved 15 years ago. You know, it's like those areas been drilled, like I did all that saying, no, you don't get it have been. And here's the that's the kicker And it comes out that superstition that's at the drink. I wonder if Eli and Mary ever talk or if Eli's pissed like, are you married, you know? H.W. Yeah. H.W. Seems like good guy, though. Oh, yeah. He's the best. You got to wonder, like, is he thinking murder right now? Is he thinking, I'm going to do it? I don't know. Or is it just love it? That's only fair. I think he's enjoying it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's, like, relishes in it. You know what gets him? He builds up his anger, you know? Don't believe me. Then it's all on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's so many great lines of dialog here. I mean, obviously I drink your milkshake. It's so, it's like, iconic. But for the afterbirth like that. Yeah. Oh and so mean can hear in the book. Yeah. Takes that drink. Oh he needs it. He goes Oh God. Failed to alert me of the panic in our economy. It's so funny when it's like, okay it hurt. I mean his, his line of those areas have been drilled that just like hammers home and the defeat on Eli's face and was talked a little bit about filming this and it was it was a little tense in the room, you know. Yeah. Bowling balls, bowling pins flying around. It must have been. Wow. It must have been so to, like, capture this there and like that cut right to it. That was Yeah, that was the first time we went in for the close. Yeah. Yeah. Is there. You don't understand. Do you understand drainage, Eli. Yeah. And I mean, he just, he keeps on going again. We talked about this so long ago. Now, at this point, now he's going to bring up Paul, and I gave him, I think he says five, thousand dollars, which he did not. I just love that. And then how angry that upsets you with the. But sit down says, get out. It's just so fucking good, you know, I should just be running. Daniel Plainview can't run. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to play to your strengths here. I just run you probably at this point. Well, I mean, you wouldn't be able to do anything about it. You know, I could be able to catch a visa and get up the to get from you. So devastated. I can't believe you made me say that. I know. I know that. Huh? See that? Yeah. And just. I wonder what's there. I don't know. Yeah. If you if you mix that with. He is very good looking. No, I think there's. I think there's something there. It very well could be that the actually be a great evade my question if I ever met Paul they know me like so I never we would we talked about this. What was your preparation for it. Yeah what was your said. Oh if there's one thing Daniel playing do you hate to sniveling ass crying, sniveling Yes. They won't bore you a card That really going for it here that. Oh yeah. He's so good. Yeah, he is like you believe you really believe this character and like, I know know exactly who the guy is. Here he goes. I was pissed and he was just a fool. Yeah. Now he's. Now he's trying to write them up. Yeah. I broke you and I beat you. Yeah. It was so good. Yes, He is just messing with you. Oh, 10,000. I mistake ten. I wonder if this is true, though. I don't know. I added it sounds so like his. His stock line. No. Yeah. Two barrels the after birth. Oh, boy. Oh, God. It's just such good fucking dialog. It totally is in the way he decides to lose it. Yeah. Over certain words, you know, he plays with the language, so. Yeah, this is. Yeah, it's got they had to, I don't know at some point. At what point did they know like we have, like we're making an iconic scene with I can't, you know like at what point do you realize that and you just look at it. This is the thing people reference most about this movie came out. Everyone talked about this. Yeah, it's a stupid thing to say. It's so stupid. It's all. But that's so funny. Yeah, I drink it up. Here we go. Just totally an unhinged character by an actor. Totally in control. Oh, that. Even a scream out of this little look at that boy. Yeah, I am the thing. I wonder if he planned to hit the bucket to go on the camera or if it was just a good luck. It had to be like, you can't. I don't think you could plan for something this good. Yeah, maybe. Maybe he deals an extra bowler. Yeah, he practiced for, like, two years to get that. Look at him. God, in these low angles. I love of him, and he's always kept to like the side. Maybe that's when he says to him in the in the church, he said, I told you I would eat you like, oh yeah, yeah, I will eat you. I told you I would eat you at first. Penny just like threw against the wall. But you better run. That's it. That's it. That's it, That's it. Oh, look at that camera. Slow. Yeah. Don't move. And pushing in. I'm so glad they didn't show this. Like, you see the aftermath of it, but I'm so glad you didn't show it actually going in. Oh, yeah, It's just. Yeah, I don't need it. You don't it. Oh, with footsteps in the like he just has no regard for it and there is the blood that we were promised and I genuinely have like no idea what happens after that. It's like does he get it? Does he have enough money just to get rid of this body? And, you know, no one ask questions and it's it's done. It is lives the rest of his days. Does I genuinely I cannot imagine him getting in trouble for this. I just I've never had that in my head. Yeah. I've never even thought about it. Yeah, exactly. It's sort of. This guy's great, too. Mr. Daniel Emmanuel slippers. Like, no shit that I've seen. Yeah. It's not even, like, surprised. Yeah, exactly. Just confused. Like, is this kind of night? Is this going to be for me? Yeah. And then here we go. Final delivery as a perfect. It's absolutely perfect. And we bring up the music, and I feel like that's. PTA Yep, that's PTA. When I heard that music start up, like I'm getting chills. But in the theater I was like, Oh my God, I've just I just watched Masterpiece. That is insane. And that was There will be and that's not even that's on the nose it's not even is on like it's it's it's a much better line when you're trying to communicate the same thing that I feel like Quentin did with Inglourious Basterds. Yeah. Yeah. This might be my masterpiece. Yeah, I mean, unfinished can mean so many different things. Like it just Yeah, that's what's so great about Sinclair. Yeah, It's based very, very loosely on oil. It's, I mean, kind of the there's a bit of that opening speech. Like, ladies and gentlemen, I traveled over half our state, but there's and I've never read olive oil, but I've read I read like the first chapters. So that's what I heard. It was mostly based on I love this and we just get to play it out with everyone, you know, PTA ends, every movie. I think the last thing you frame of all of his movies are a dedication to, you know, Oh, no, I don't think you know. Yeah. So Lucas Pizza is dedicated to Robert Downey Senior. I did see that. I remember seeing that. Yeah, a true prince or a prince or something like that. Phantom, I'm not sure. But this is dedicated to him. And there might be whenever Jonathan Demme, Jonathan Demme died, who was incredibly important to him. The next film after that was dedicated to him, and Robert Altman was always one of his favorite directors and he died. I believe it's 26 or it could have been in 27. So the very last thing we see in the credits for Robert Altman and he holds it for like a long time. It's like ten, 20 seconds almost. But these credits take forever to make it the whole way. That was great, though. That was a lot of fun with this. It's just fun to watch the movies this way. I mean, this is like, you know, we pick this one because, I don't know, it just kind of spoke to us and I'm like, why not? We've talked about There Will be Blood a lot on the podcast, but I don't know, it still felt appropriate. Well, it deserved a full I think. I think I think it's a good enough movie too, where we we were very picky about our commentaries, but I think this is one where it's like, Now let's just go into it, do a whole thing on this. It is really crazy how fast it goes when we're doing this. So like it just cruises by God, I love that movie. How many times you think you've seen it? I've seen quite a bit. I would say I've seen this movie in the double digits. Nice. Or it's not like this was number nine. Yeah, I'm definitely in the double digits with it, but I'm like a lunatic and all this rewatch stuff I love. I did one of those post like 70 I love about There Will Be Blood that No one talks about. So when I you know, on my blogs, when I do one of those I have to like you really have to sit there and pay attention. And that's why I can't do them anymore, because my blog, the way it handles pictures is just like terrible. And they were all picture based. So would you say that there's is there a movie that you've seen in the triple digits, a Oh, Jesus Christ. If I'm being 100% on, it's like I don't know about start to finish necessarily, but scream Pulp Fiction and Shame Pulp Fiction would be in the triple digits. There's no question. If I like, do the math. I watch a movie at least like three times a year since, I don't know, 95, what, two or three times a year? And that's hard enough to get into triple digits, at least not yet. But but then, like just checking out a scene here, they're like a large chunk of it, like, yeah, I would rewatch shame a lot when I was editing my movies and I may not watch like every, you know, all hour and 41 minutes, but yeah, like scream just as a kid I would just put it on repeat all the time. Yeah, all the time. Damn near broke the VHS when I had the VHS. I was watch it all the time. I love that movie. VHS. For anyone who doesn't know, it was a machine that played tapes. Well, no, that was the VCR. VHS was. Was that it? It was like I said, Yeah, that was what the view was on God of fucking things. We all thought they'd be around forever. Everyone's had VHS that's had a shitload how pissed you'd be when you get a blockbuster tape and it wasn't rewound. Oh, I would be pissed when they just wouldn't work. Sometimes from home and they just, like, wouldn't work. And you, you know, I looked so far, I couldn't because I lived so far. So, like, it was. It was one trip, but I mean, Blockbuster. I mean, I go in there, I'd rent three or four on a Friday and that was my weekend. Like, I was totally fine with that. Did that all growing up? Yeah, that was me too. But I didn't like When you're young, you don't, like have a lot of your own money to buy movies. But like a lot of that, I definitely bought Pulp and Scream, like as soon as I could. It just right and watched them all the time. And those are movies that I've had on like every possible version VHS, DVD, Blu ray rereleasing, Pulp in a 4K. So I wanted to get that. Whatever reason, I remember early on in my DVD collection, remember The Patriot was one of the very first movies I ever owned on DVD. The first movie I ever owned on DVD was, Arlington Road with Tim Robbins and Jeff Bridges. It's a good one. It's a creepy. Yeah, I don't I don't know. That was just the first one. My second was Apocalypse Now. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, like, okay, no, no, that wasn't even out yet when I bought the DVD. Yeah. Yeah, I Arlington Road. I remember watching that movie and remember just thinking Jeff Bridges, I was like, Wow, this is really what paranoia is like. Yeah, yeah. It's a good paranoid thriller. Like no one talks about it. Good DC movie. DC Well, Arlington is in it's a suburb of DC. Oh, and they're all about like terrorists. I think they blow up the FBI building. Yeah. Yeah, that. Yeah, that's the building, right, That's in that building downtown DC. Can't do that anymore. Blow up buildings. No, no, you shouldn't. You shouldn't attempt to. It doesn't go well in movies. Like I don't think you could pull off something like a Well you probably could. They, they do that shit like the Gray Man. They blow up big things all the time. People still do it. It's. I don't know. It's just tough yelling at me. Oh, no, I'm not. Yeah, I wasn't yelling at you. I'm pissed at, like, the thing that, like, it can still happen in these, like, bad movies. Yes, they're crediting. Jonny Greenwood is having he did other that is the ones that's Avro part I don't know and of course that's I don't think it's brought maybe just because there's a power in the blood. Yeah he's going to dedicated. The first dedication is to his family, his wife and his children and then to Robert and Robert there to Robert Altman. And it's cool. And music like you'll see it really comes up my bet it's a little a little extra love to his mentor. All right. Well, then I guess we should finish. What's your favorite Robert Altman movie, man? I was like, McCabe, Mrs. Miller, The Long Goodbye Three Women is really good. Probably the player, honestly. Oh, wow. Love the player. I love that movie. Nashville's not going to come in there, huh? I like Nashville. Nashville is a choice to put Nashville on like that thing. No one else could have made that but him. It's. It's so long. There's no plot, and I've only seen it once, which probably isn't true. But yeah, I've only seen it once. I think the players is hysterical. There it is. Thank you everyone for listening and happy watching. Maybe watch along with us. We appreciate it. Bye bye now. Hey, everyone. Thanks again for listening. You can watch my films and read my movie blog at Alex Withrow dot com Nicholas Dose Tor.com is where you can find all of Nick's film work. Send us mailbag questions at What Are You Watching Podcast at gmail.com or find us on Twitter at W aiw underscore podcast. Next time we're going to the theater for Magic Mike's Last Dance. You better believe it. Watch the first two on HBO. Go see Last Dance in the theater, then listen to our episode. Stay tuned.